Wolves around North Pole and Fairbanks (Valdez, Metlakatla: lease, work, illegal)

[User 2]

Originally Posted by Manmountain

Why didnt those womens husbands outfit them with a lightweight 45 or 9mm Glock? End of story. Anyone walkin about should be packin 24/7. I can understand if someone went to a University where the socilalist professors taught them that a 'well regulated militia' is the National guard ?
One dog was killed, one was injured and a group of joggers was terrified in two Eagle River wolf attacks that officials believe may have involved the same pack.

State sets up wolf hot line

KTVA video: Wolf encounterhttp://www.adn.com/ Get back to Seattle where your protected.


No wonder Alaska is turning into another lower 48 blegh hole

Alaska turned into a blegh hole when people came here, and brought with them a distinct lack of comprehension, distorted irrational beliefs, and a lack of simple common sense, ....just as is so clearly and unmistakenly put on display so often in response to most any opportunity for said people to demonstrate.

Wolves live here, if you have a dog, a wolf may be tempted to eat that dog, especially in a year where there is little snow that would allow them better hunting opportunities on their usual and preferred prey.

If you chain your 'pet' to a post where a wolf lives, you've provided an easy meal.

If you let your 'pet' run loose, you have little concern for your so-called 'pet'.

If these incidents demonstrate anything, it's that more and more people are encroaching on land that has always been wolf habitat, and that way too many of those people can't be relied upon to have the common sense to properly tend for the animals they own.

Rather than use the wolf eats dog incidents to promote your ideas that everyone ought to have a gun and shoot all the wolves, and then extend that lunacy to suggest the wholly implausible and ill-conceived notion that everyone ought to be packing guns everywhere 24/7, and then somehow stretching that out to make an unintelligible and unrelated inference attempting to deride universities because of some wild eyed, scary, imaginary socialist indoctrination program supposedly carried out by 'professors', and just coincidentally, how this scary indoctrination program just might be what's behind your not being able to comprehend why not everyone is as uninformed as you appear to be regarding 2nd Amendment rights arguments, (let's see, did I miss anything), ...oh, yeah, the suggestion to 'get back to Seattle' and how that somehow or other equates to 'protection' from some unnamed another something that you're insecure about, ......

No wonder Alaska is turning into a lower 48 blegh hole indeed.....
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[Arcticthaw]

Having been raised here and raised my childern here, I can attest to the fact that the school system and university system, tend to extend the teachers or profesor's personal views into their students. It is common knowledge that the majority of professors are very liberal in their views, especially to gun ownership and use. If you live or jog in an area prone to wolves and bears, then a method of last resort is just good common sense. The exact method will be different for each individual. Someone who doesn' like or care for a gun would be a good canidate for pepper spray, club. machete, or long walking stick. A person competent and can remain calm in such a situation should have no problem carrying a gun 24/7.

As for our 2nd amendment rights we shouldn't give up any rights we believe we have. This way we are accountable for our actions and help balance the government. The US Supreme court is taking up a case based on the 2nd amendment in regards to Washington DC. laws. This is the closest the Supreme court has ever come to interpeting the amendment. Wheather its is an individual right or a National Guard was the intent. Till then both sides should hold your breath and the rest of us in the middle will have a pool to who we think will win.

[User 2]

Originally Posted by Arcticthaw

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Eh?,

...them lib-ral perfessers must a done mussed with your mind....
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[Tim Rankin]

Originally Posted by Glitch

One more thing, domesticated dogs, no matter how large or feirce, are no match against a pack of hungry wolves.

One more thing...a pack 'a hungry wolves are no match aginst a species that outnumbers 'em 120,000/1, spends the winter indoors and hunts 'em in a "sportsmans-like way" - from airplanes.

[Rance]

It's Alaska. We have wolves. If your gonna be out walking amongst them...be prepared to encounter them. And don't go cryin and whining if they happen to jump your dog. It's Alaska. Deal with it. I happen to think it's very cool.

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by Rance

It's Alaska. We have wolves. If your gonna be out walking amongst them...be prepared to encounter them. And don't go cryin and whining if they happen to jump your dog. It's Alaska. Deal with it. I happen to think it's very cool.

My sentiments exactly. If Alaska were like the lower-48 many of us wouldn't be here. It is precisely because Alaska has a uniquely different environment from the lower-48 that many of us are drawn to Alaska. If people are not prepared to deal with that environment, or expect it to be like the lower-48, then they shouldn't be in Alaska.

A big part of Alaska's "charm" is that the vast majority of the state is still truly wild. That means moose, bears, and wolves can be encountered anywhere, including in cities and towns. As far as I am concerned, it is no different than wearing winter clothes during the winter. One has to be prepared for the conditions where one lives or they can expect calamity to follow.

Despite the recent wolf attacks, I still consider moose a bigger threat. That doesn't mean I ignore the possibility of a wolf encounter. It means that I need to maintain complete control over my pets at all times and be prepared to defend myself and my property, if necessary. Fortunately, I live in a state that acknowledges my right to be armed at all times. Wandering around the Alaskan bush (or even Anchorage's many greenbelts) without a firearm is akin to wandering around naked in the winter, it is inviting disaster.

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by Tim Rankin

One more thing...a pack 'a hungry wolves are no match aginst a species that outnumbers 'em 120,000/1, spends the winter indoors and hunts 'em in a "sportsmans-like way" - from airplanes.

First of all, there are between 7,700 and 11,200 wolves in Alaska. Which means that humans outnumber wolves by a ratio of between 60 and 87 to 1. Secondly, it is illegal to hunt any game (including wolves) in Alaska from aircraft or to land and shoot any game on the same day. It is very evident from your post that you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

[Metlakatla]

Unless something has changed recently, aerial wolf hunting is still legal in parts of Alaska.

http://www.wildlife.alaska.gov/index...g=wolf.control

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

Unless something has changed recently, aerial wolf hunting is still legal in parts of Alaska.

http://www.wildlife.alaska.gov/index...g=wolf.control

You are mistaken. Did you even bother to read the link you provided? First of all, it plainly states "Wolf Control In Alaska" right in the title. Wolf control is NOT wolf hunting. Secondly, the article states:

Currently, five wolf control programs are underway that comprises about 9.4% of Alaska's land area. The programs use a closely controlled permit system allowing aerial or same day airborne methods to remove wolves in designated areas. In these areas, wolf numbers will be temporarily reduced, but wolves will not be permanently eliminated from any area. Successful programs allow humans to take more moose, and healthy populations of wolves to continue to thrive in Alaska.

The ADF&G has issued a total of THREE of these special wolf control permits per year for the McGrath area. In November 2000, Alaskans passed an initiave with 53% of the vote that makes aerial hunting of any game or landing and shooting game on the same day illegal.

[Dusty Rhodes]

[quote=Arcticthaw;2314703]If you live or jog in an area prone to wolves and bears, then a method of last resort is just good common sense. The exact method will be different for each individual.

As is also the case with human predators, I have the right of self-defense. In the case of bears and wolves, I armed UP while walking around in Alaska, fishing, et al, a hand gun and pepper spray, always nice to have options. As stated, I thought it "just good common sense". If I end up as lunch for a four footed predator, at least half the blame is my own. If someone I am hiking with becomes lunch, I am more than half responsible, because I did not take the necessary steps to protect those with me against a known threat. As a human being, it is not my job to protect anyone from themselves, but, outside forces, forseeable events, known dangers, I, and those around me, should look out for each other. I consider it to be one of the duties of friendship to be the eyes in the back of my friends head, an early warning system when necessary, an extra set of hands (or arms when needed) in defense of life or property. I also believe that it is one of the responsibilities of citizenship, watching out for ones' neighbors. Yes, I know, this is an archaic notion, but, am somewhat of a fossil myself.