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Old 05-20-2014, 07:40 PM
 
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The only good thing about politics is the Tea Party. The corruption relates to both the ones in charge of the Republican party, and the ones in charge of the Democrat party. The Tea party wants to kick both out of office, and so a lot of independent Alaskans.
Joe Miller is AK's tea party darling. He's as about as shady as humanly possible.Are you kidding yourself?
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:42 PM
 
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I can't seem to agree with your rational. Once the Tea Party gets in and lowers taxes and shuts down most government services that State will be bankrupt. There wont be enough money to fund the services governments normally provide and without income from taxes there wont be any payments to other than the governor and the legislature and you can bet there will be enough to pay them. Then the public will vote the no government fools out of office and you'll never hear about that type of government again. Those with enough imagination to come up with that type of government are going to prove it don't work that-a-way. And that's who you want to be associated with?
The TP could never accomplish those things anyway. Their entire platform is complete bunk. No state government can control the federal government and people will still have to pay taxes and follow laws just like normal. It would just be a bigger waste of time than usual.
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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I can't seem to agree with your rational. Once the Tea Party gets in and lowers taxes and shuts down most government services that State will be bankrupt. There wont be enough money to fund the services governments normally provide and without income from taxes there wont be any payments to other than the governor and the legislature and you can bet there will be enough to pay them. Then the public will vote the no government fools out of office and you'll never hear about that type of government again. Those with enough imagination to come up with that type of government are going to prove it don't work that-a-way. And that's who you want to be associated with?
The reason why you can’t agree with my rationale is because you are confused as follows:

a. As far as I know, this thread is about Alaska politics. Isn’t it?

b. What political parties have been involved in the governance of Alaska since it became a State?

c. The Tea Party is not one of the two political parties (Democrat and Republican). As such, it’s not a “party,” nor does it have political power that's great enough to change the political landscape of Alaska.

d. The Tea Party movement began sometime around 2009, I believe, and has not had enough pull in Alaska politics. In fact the Libertarians under Ron and Rand Paul have been the most influential in regards to Alaska politics. What happens in Alaska is that a whole bunch of voters are "undeclared" (independent), a great number being libertarian. Most of these voters consider the political powers in charge as being corrupt.

Both the Republicans and Democrats have been the ones in charge since the beginning of AK’s Statehood, and the only way to stop the corruption is by passing laws to make term limits a mandate. But since our representatives in Juneau are the ones who would have agree to such a law, there is no way that they will pass it against their own interests. That leaves a movement such as the Tea party, or maybe the libertarians, trying to kick both the entrenched republicans and Democrats out of office, and that was the point I was trying to make in my previous post.

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Old 05-20-2014, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Joe Miller is AK's tea party darling. He's as about as shady as humanly possible.Are you kidding yourself?
So what? Joe Miller is not one of our representatives in Washington. Lisa, Begich, Don Young are, which are in turn in the list of most corrupt politicians.
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Sevastopol city, Russia.
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Well done Ray! Give them hell.)))
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:49 AM
 
Location: sitka, Alaska
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Excellent points Ray!
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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I can see Russia from my house.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Long haired pot smoking libertarians, and hippies with guns.

At least that's how I like to see it. Plenty of normal boring people too though I guess, but I think we have exceptionally less "party allegiance" than most states.
Unless you count the members of the "Corrupt Bastards Club".

On second thought, you may be right.

Their allegiance is less to party and more to money.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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So what? Joe Miller is not one of our representatives in Washington. Lisa, Begich, Don Young are, which are in turn in the list of most corrupt politicians.
Thank God, he's not one of our senators but he came dangerously close to almost being one.

That's "so what".
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Sevastopol city, Russia.
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I can see Russia from my house.
Obviously you see Dezhnev Cape
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