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01-15-2008, 10:11 PM
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Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Originally Posted by User 2
You're not reading the links, are you?
Idling cars emit twice the pollutants than that emitted from a cold start car.
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No. What for? If it's -45 the motor won't reach normal operating temperature, anyway. Are those folks in the link from anywhere where it's real cold, or are they sitting behind their computers in a warm place telling me not to let my car idle long enough to warm the cab?
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01-15-2008, 10:12 PM
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I am downright amazed at what I can destroy
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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I plug mine in because Jackie Purcell tells us to at 20 degrees and colder.
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01-15-2008, 10:22 PM
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80 above in the land of midnight sun!
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Fairbanks Alaska
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Originally Posted by Xa'at
That is a generalization. Many areas in Alaska get their electricity from hydroelectric dams. 
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An Accurate generalization.
Alaska's Largest Hydroelectric Project
The Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project is the largest of the seven hydroelectric facilities in the State. Since 1991, the Project has delivered an annualized average of 381 million kilowatt-hours of electricity annually. Through interconnection with the existing transmission system, which extends north 450 miles, the Project serves customers from the Kenai Peninsula to Fairbanks. Approximately 72% of the State's population reside in this area.
GVEA: Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project
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01-15-2008, 10:26 PM
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80 above in the land of midnight sun!
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Fairbanks Alaska
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Quote:
Originally Posted by User 2
Many areas?
Alaska produces less than 1000 kwhours from hydro-electric dams.
Some very few areas have hydro-electric, the majority of electricity is generated by the direct burning of fossil fuels.
With over 7 billion kwh sold yearly in Alaska, less than one sevenhundredthousandth of the total isn't much of an argument to support your post.
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You may have a data input error!
GVEA: Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project
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01-15-2008, 10:42 PM
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Not a member
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcticthaw
An Accurate generalization.
Alaska's Largest Hydroelectric Project
The Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project is the largest of the seven hydroelectric facilities in the State. Since 1991, the Project has delivered an annualized average of 381 million kilowatt-hours of electricity annually. Through interconnection with the existing transmission system, which extends north 450 miles, the Project serves customers from the Kenai Peninsula to Fairbanks. Approximately 72% of the State's population reside in this area.
GVEA: Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project
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Very interesting,
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electri...es/sep2006.pdf
I've found competing numbers from the Dept. of Energy.
Ones that don't match the numbers I found elsewhere earlier.
For what it's worth, here are the total net kilawatt hours generated in Alaska according to the Department of Energy.
Alaska 6,674,197,000
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electri...es/sep2006.pdf
Unless I'm missing something, that's 6.67 billion kilawatts, right?
Subtract your Bradley Lake numbers and that still leaves some 6.29 some odd billion kilowatts still being generated by fuel burning.
I'd say the 'generalization' still holds, most electricity used in Alaska is definitively derived from burning fossil fuels.
(two things I can't explain, ...one, why the hydro number I found earlier is off, and two, how one site says over 7 billion sold, and another says only 6.67 billion produced? ...someone got sold more than was produced? Wouldn't be the first time.)
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01-15-2008, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Arcticthaw
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Nooooooo! User-2 makes no mistaker, EVER 
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01-15-2008, 10:47 PM
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I just admitted my fallibility.
Still waiting on each of your past examples.
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01-15-2008, 10:51 PM
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Prince of Darkness
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The hydroelectric power plant at Solomon Gulch provides 60% of 76 million kWh per year.
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01-15-2008, 10:53 PM
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I am downright amazed at what I can destroy
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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Just plug your car in, end of story.
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01-15-2008, 11:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mal_flisk
The hydroelectric power plant at Solomon Gulch provides 60% of 76 million kWh per year.
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So Valdez and Glenallen use 76 million kilowatts total?
You say 60% of 76 million,
....the one place I found where that is repeated, briefly cites Solomon Gulch,
but it also says, Bradley lake only produces 115 megawatts.
That's a far cry from the 381 figure cited by Golden Valley.
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