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01-15-2008, 11:13 PM
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Sorry I don't know about Bradley Lake, I have my info from the work I did at Solomon Gulch for CVEA.
KPU gets approximately 80% of it's power from it's four hydro plants. Most of the power work I do is in bush villages where it is almost 95% diesel power.
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01-15-2008, 11:23 PM
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This article cites similar numbers as you had for Solomon Gulch,
....they don't really give much reference, and this same article lists the Bradley lake numbers much lower than the 381 number.
July 28, 2006
White Gold
Hydroelectric Power In Alaska
by Brian Yanity, insurgent49
insurgent49
Total hydro in this article says 13%....
Since the numbers I see are all so far apart, I wonder about most of them now.
I also read Solomon Gulch was shut down half the year, because it freezes up every year too, are those actual numbers or projected?
http://www.ferc.gov/eventcalendar/Fi...0-08-16-05.pdf
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01-15-2008, 11:26 PM
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I just admitted my fallibility.
Still waiting on each of your past examples.
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Sorry, User-2. I make mistakes too 
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01-15-2008, 11:32 PM
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80 above in the land of midnight sun!
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115 megawats an hour.
381 million kilowatts a year.
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01-15-2008, 11:34 PM
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It's ok guys. In a couple more months none of us will have to worry about plugging in or idle time. One good storm will exchange the atmosphere and we will have fresh clean air again. Alas they will continue to burn the rain forests at an alarming rate tho. Thus depleting our precious planet of much needed life giving oxygen, and dumping tons of crud into the upper atmosphere, eating away at the ozone, which will in turn induce global warming, which could give us warmer winters, which would reduce the need to plug in or idle vehicles. Sigh...
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01-15-2008, 11:37 PM
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80 above in the land of midnight sun!
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Maybe we should ground all jet aircraft (military exempt of course).
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01-15-2008, 11:41 PM
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Quote:
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115 megawats an hour.
381 million kilowatts a year.
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(article doesn't quote 115 'per hour'...
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Bradley Lake hydroelectric plant near Homer with 115 megawatts of generation capacity
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115 megawatts per hour times 24, equals 2,760,000 megawatts a day.
A megawatt is a thousand kilowatts, ....see where this is going?
2.76 million megawatts times 365 isn't going to equal 381 million kilowatts.
Math? .....or Arithmetic?
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01-15-2008, 11:48 PM
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80 above in the land of midnight sun!
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the 115 number was supplied by you.
I would suspect the date each arcticle was written may play an important part in the quoted capacities. The GVEA arcticle said capacity was 126 but they run at 90.
The ferc report you quoted and no I didn't read it, is dated 2005. Two year old data may be part of the problem.
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01-16-2008, 12:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcticthaw
the 115 number was supplied by you.
I would suspect the date each arcticle was written may play an important part in the quoted capacities. The GVEA arcticle said capacity was 126 but they run at 90.
The ferc report you quoted and no I didn't read it, is dated 2005. Two year old data may be part of the problem.
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The 115 number came from the link I posted.
Dated 2006, I couldn't tell you what year the author got his data.
But even so, I still haven't been able to make the math work out even close.
Any electical engineers here?
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01-16-2008, 01:06 AM
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Any electical engineers here?
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Ooh oh, me me! I'm an electical engineer!
Never mind.
I start my car early sometimes. Yep, polluting the environment, I know. But I don't think anyone is allowed to tell me that I'm some sort of hazard to the environment, considering I use only 100% recycled paper, eat organic food, do my shopping with recycled cotton bags, and use environmentally friendly soaps, cleaners, etc etc. Not to mention I get my electricity from hydro, which, admittedly, isn't the best either, when one thinks about the poor darling salmon. However, I don't believe that the alternative (solar!) would work out very well in Southeast Alaska.
This rant in a nutshell: chill out. Also, me for president. 
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