Alaska Chat II (limousine, approval, rent)

[Candle]

Originally Posted by bkyhi

Warpt, Point taken.

One more to make my point clear to average computer users - primarily Windows and non-tech types.

My big point here is that a skewed overall picture was being painted.
I agree with Floyd on almost every point. It's more the wording used gives an average user the wrong picture.

"But even then... it virtually requires that you make an effort to disable security! And the threat is limited to that one system. It just isn't possible to spread it around."

"This difference though is that Linux is that way out of the box, and it takes a great deal of real effort to make it vulnerable"

Point: there have been and will continue to be vulnerabilities which are built in - out of the box, no effort needed by anyone to disable security. Yes it is possible to spread it around - NOT just limited to one system.

BUT to be fair - that is rare and much more limited than with Windows. However those boxes have been rooted, passwords stolen, worms have spread from box to box.

Oh, regarding the vulnerabilty counts: I don't thing the counts were correct as they counted a single Linux vulnerability multiple times if there were multiple exploits. So maybe more like 800 vulnerabilities (just a guess). One gun - ten bullets. Huh - still only one gun.

Remember the movie Independence Day?
I actually liked the movie except for the end. I could never figure out how that guy managed to actually get a virus in the Aliens' computers.
First he needed to figure how to actually communicate with it, then he would need details on how they operated, the machine language or whatever language was used, find a way to get the virus onto the machines, then finally how to activate it.
I finally concluded that the aliens were using Windows ETV (Exter-terrestial Version)

There now Warpt, I won't bore you with this stuff, at least for now.
Besides - I'm going to go out and do something really fun - shovel snow.




Again there have been and still are (CERT 2008) exploits being used against Linux vulnerabilities.

I like shoveling snow. Gives people something to do besides watch TV or something like that.

[warptman]

I have a snow blower, did the yard this morning after work to make more room for the storm we're getting tonight. Gotta keep room for new stuff, ya know.

[HighlandLady]

I've snow-blowed half the driveway...then it ran out of gas. On my way back out with it again. That is a lot of snow!
Black Lab decided to try and catch snow coming out of the snow chute. Lost the Black Lab and gained an abominable snow Lab!

[warptman]

Crazy stuff...A D-4 Cat bulldozer started pushing it's way down to Kongiganak from Bethel the morning of Feb 28th on the river . The river trip is from Bethel to Tuntutuliak which is about 80 river miles , then on across the frozen tundra to Kongiganak . The trail will be used for truck's to haul material for wind towers to be put up there.

[Grannysroost]

Originally Posted by HighlandLady

I've snow-blowed half the driveway...then it ran out of gas. On my way back out with it again. That is a lot of snow!
Black Lab decided to try and catch snow coming out of the snow chute. Lost the Black Lab and gained an abominable snow Lab!

You needed a picture of that

[HighlandLady]

Originally Posted by Grannysroost

You needed a picture of that

I thought on that...would need another set of hands. Lab is still snorting over the business. Ah well...time to let them follow me about once again!

[bkyhi]

I miss my dogs, after 16 and 12 years they are gone. Not ready to get another yet. But boy I do miss them.

Shovel snow = good. Exercise - helps keep you healthy both physically and mentally. Besides now my neighbors can get in and out of their front door w/o climbing over hills and none of the soft fluffy stuff tracked inside just to melt in slippery puddles just inside the door.

Two houses down, I'm going over to this guy Hank's house in a bit - he's got a long path from street to door - wonder if he needs some shoveling.

Mind you no driveways shoveled here, just a path to the front doors - do ya think I'm crazy.

Still more snow blowing about - this is the 4th time I've shoveled out our front door since yesterday evening. I expect there will be more to do before todays' over, and then there's tomorrow.

[HighlandLady]

You'll just have to come for a visit then, Brian...I have quite the driveway and while I have shoveled it, it is far more suited for a blower.
You can visit with these nunkie beasts too And I'm adding another to the mix on the 13th of March...a white Lab. She's going to be my bird-hunting companion.

[bkyhi]

Originally Posted by HighlandLady

You'll just have to come for a visit then, Brian...I have quite the driveway and while I have shoveled it, it is far more suited for a blower.
You can visit with these nunkie beasts too And I'm adding another to the mix on the 13th of March...a white Lab. She's going to be my bird-hunting companion.

Highland,

I must only assume that you enjoy the snow removal activity. (lol) I know a bunch of folks that use their teenagers for that, shoveling and blowing. Maybe a family activity. My friends in Mass do that, brings 'em closer and the kids understand it's something that needs to be done. It's not just for the kids, the adults are out there too. Hopefully when those kids grow up they will realize all the reasons for the things the adults do, and the importance of doing them together.

Happy day to you.

Maybe I'll come for a visit some day. But most probably not in the winter I'll pick a season where all there is to do is hike, swim, sail, eat and sit around. Actually I do enjoy yard work, kind of like meditation for me.

[HighlandLady]

Originally Posted by bkyhi

Highland,

I must only assume that you enjoy the snow removal activity. (lol) I know a bunch of folks that use their teenagers for that, shoveling and blowing. Maybe a family activity. My friends in Mass do that, brings 'em closer and the kids understand it's something that needs to be done. It's not just for the kids, the adults are out there too. Hopefully when those kids grow up they will realize all the reasons for the things the adults do, and the importance of doing them together.

Happy day to you.

Maybe I'll come for a visit some day. But most probably not in the winter I'll pick a season where all there is to do is hike, swim, sail, eat and sit around. Actually I do enjoy yard work, kind of like meditation for me.

I love working on my grounds...and in the spring will be putting in a garden. It is meditative, I agree.
I actually enjoy working more outdoors than in.