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Old 02-12-2008, 10:24 PM
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Default Reflecting on another Darwin Day

Since it is Darwin Day, we should remember to tip our hats to the Alaska State Board of Education.

It was on June 10th, 2005, that the Alaska Board of Education reinstated evolution back into the state science standards.

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Old 02-12-2008, 10:47 PM
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I wonder if there's any school system that has combined both points of view?

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Old 02-12-2008, 10:47 PM
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Since it is Darwin Day, we should remember to tip our hats to the Alaska State Board of Education.

It was on June 10th, 2005, that the Alaska Board of Education reinstated evolution back into the state science standards.

adn.com | opinion : Good call

Bonus reading:

http://www.adn.com/news/education/st...-6474520c.html

NCSE Resource

Extra points if you can cite Governor Palin on teaching creationism in public schools.
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Wow!!! I'm much more surprized that it needed to be re-instated. Here in NC, heart of the bible belt, they tried and failed at trying to get evolution banned from the classroom. And,... they lost so overwhelmingly that it has not been tried since. N.C. spends a whole lot of money on it's University system, the state is really big on higher education.

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You have GOT to be kidding???????????????????????? Your warping the minds of youth of the USA and the West---

the middle east and Asia has better sense not to fall for this propaganda.

If anyone has young adults send them on a few backpacking international trips and let them see how the rest of the world works. This USA is turning into a Fascist Corp disaster. Go look at the dollar exchange and look!.


Global warming , Is this something to raise to hyper - level celebration? or even bring to merit any good that evolution has ever brought to mankind/society?

IE; the UN / UNICEF has been over watch on 20 million deaths thruout the world in the last 10 years--- 'still tryin tho-----FU

YOU ENVIRO/CORP/FASCIST/WALLSTREET KILLERS get lost !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 02-12-2008, 10:50 PM
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I wonder if there's any school system that has combined both points of view?
Yeah, it's called "Creation Science" a misnomer one would expect from the state of Tennessee, the same state that brought us the Scopes trial. Stephen J. Gould, the Natural Historian, wrote articles for Natural History magazine for over 20 years, plus a collection of other writing. He was particularly adept at debunking false science, most libraries carry an assortment of his works.

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Old 02-12-2008, 10:53 PM
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Wow!!! I'm much more surprized that it needed to be re-instated. Here in NC, heart of the bible belt, they tried and failed at trying to get evolution banned from the classroom. And,... they lost so overwhelmingly that it has not been tried since. N.C. spends a whole lot of money on it's University system, the state is really big on higher education.
Don't be so surprised....

It's precisely because of an earlier effort by the creationists that the 2005 action had to be taken.

The current Governor has an opinion that is directly opposed to the Supreme Court decision regarding the same....

...creationists are alive and well in the 'home school' movement here, just as the home school movement is a cover for all kinds of flat earthers everywhere.

(.......for any of you doubters, just browse around a few of the 'home school' bookstores and check out the 'texts' they want you to buy)
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Old 02-13-2008, 01:23 AM
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Don't be so surprised....

It's precisely because of an earlier effort by the creationists that the 2005 action had to be taken.

The current Governor has an opinion that is directly opposed to the Supreme Court decision regarding the same....

...creationists are alive and well in the 'home school' movement here, just as the home school movement is a cover for all kinds of flat earthers everywhere.

(.......for any of you doubters, just browse around a few of the 'home school' bookstores and check out the 'texts' they want you to buy)
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Yeah, I appreciate the links you supplied, sound logic at work, good to see. I've run across the same mind-set from home-schoolers down here, I believe it to be a travesty, the things done to children in the name of religion. To deliberately tell children that science is wrong because it differs from someones' opinion of what religion says. Science is a fact based study of the world and it's rules, Chemistry, Biology, Physics, Geology, sub-sets of the broad expanse of Science, Anatomy, Physiology, Optics, Astronomy. In our modern world we tend to believe it was plain foolishness for the Church to censure Newton for his insane notion that the Earth revolves around the Sun. I find it a shame that small minded pseudotheologians have the power to thwart the efforts and understandings of science. The Catholic church has already accepted the tenets, why do the baptists et al cry so loudly in their attempts to keep the world in darkness? (Rhetorical question here, I suspect I know the answer, but, tis not a pleasant subject for my mind to dwell.) I really would like to think better of my fellow man, sometimes it's difficult.

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Old 02-13-2008, 01:51 AM
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Darwin's Day is a great day to celebrate scientific curiosity's dominance over superstition driven blind faith.

We will only advance into the bright light of intellectual discovery if we leave the darkness of punishing ignorance behind us. ....~Anonymous.
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:13 AM
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Celebrate Darwin Day by renting the Simpsons movie. Just the scene where Ned Flanders rationalizes the hundred-eyed squirrel as a wonder of "creation science" is worth the price of the rental.

I think it's pretty obvious which side the creators of that particular show come down on, one of the best quotes I've ever heard about the whole issue was in a recent episode..."religion has no place in school, just like facts have no place in organized religion."

Perhaps not quite the wisdom of the ages, but short and to the point.

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Yeah, I appreciate the links you supplied, sound logic at work, good to see. I've run across the same mind-set from home-schoolers down here, I believe it to be a travesty, the things done to children in the name of religion. To deliberately tell children that science is wrong because it differs from someones' opinion of what religion says. Science is a fact based study of the world and it's rules, Chemistry, Biology, Physics, Geology, sub-sets of the broad expanse of Science, Anatomy, Physiology, Optics, Astronomy. In our modern world we tend to believe it was plain foolishness for the Church to censure Newton for his insane notion that the Earth revolves around the Sun. I find it a shame that small minded pseudotheologians have the power to thwart the efforts and understandings of science. The Catholic church has already accepted the tenets, why do the baptists et al cry so loudly in their attempts to keep the world in darkness? (Rhetorical question here, I suspect I know the answer, but, tis not a pleasant subject for my mind to dwell.) I really would like to think better of my fellow man, sometimes it's difficult.
Yes, yes and YES!!! I laugh everytime I hear that the earth is only 6000 years old b/c the Bible says so (let's dismiss carbon dating and science) and a bunch of other tripe: that dinosaurs and prehistoric animals never walked the earth, that x or y glacier can't be 8,000 years old b/c the earth isn't that old, and that anything that happened before the arrival of Jesus isn't important, or hey...it didn't happen anyway b/c time started when Jesus came around. Just plain old ignorance!!!!

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