Tok Info (Fairbanks, Kenai, Haines: real estate, house, motel)

[RAMFEB31]

Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson

The problem with Tok is that highway, and they don't actually build roads to nowhere, so Tok can't be in the middle of nowhere.

For good hunting and fishing, get a ticket on a 747 to the "little" airport in Fairbanks, and take a smaller plane from there to somewhere, in the middle of nowhere, where there aren't any roads.

My apologies to you, Floyd", Cod' and the rest of you natives for the airport misinfo JAL do have charters and Alaska Air do have sched as well as NW though some of these, I understood, are in the Summer months. That off the cuff comment was way off. It not my intention to denigrate Fairbanks or Tok. But, as a frequent traveler in that area looking in, the comment of a vacation home for fishing still holds. I've found better places else where. Hunting, I am not sure.

[rotorhead]

Even by Alaska standards, Tok is pretty much in the middle of nowhere for a town thats connected to the road systems. Its more of a place that you pass through getting to where you really want to go. I'm sure that this comment would get lots of folks steamed up who live there, but it's a bump in the road, and not a big one at that.

If you're gonna spend the time and money to fly up and drive around looking, look hard at the lower Kenai peninsula area, like around Anchor Point and Clam Gulch. If you're into fishing it's WAY more central. If you're into hunting (especially as a non-resident, and you will be from the sound of it) you'll be looking at floatplanes, jetboats, and guides anyway. Doesn't matter much where you live in AK, if you can get there by an ordinary road, it's been pretty much hunted out/closed/protected/off limits. You'll be heading out into the other 90 percent of the state to find your game, the part you can't drive to.

BTW, they take the residency laws VERY seriously up here. Just owning land in AK does NOT make you a resident, you have to live here pretty much year round. In fact, the Wildlife Troopers are extremely zealous in regards to ALL the hunting and fishing regs, there's pretty much zero tolerance if you get caught. Yes, it's a big state and they can't be everwhere at once, but they're not shy at all about big fines and property confiscation up to and including vehicles and airplanes when they're involved in illegal hunting. It pays to do your homework in that regards, as some of the rules are quite complex.

If you doubt me, just TRY to figure out exactly when and where and how big a King Salmon you can keep on the Kenai river. That particular set of regulations could make a tax accountant tongue-tied.

[codwyguy]

I relise that just owning land in Alaska dose'nt make you a resident your game laws are the same as Wyomings you have to live hear a year and research wheare you are going to hunt just like their. I have been doing my home work if i could afford land in all of the places you mentioned i would just buy land in Wyoming. The reason i am looking around Tok is becuse i would buy land from the DNR . I would love to buy land by a nice lake that you have to fly in to ,but I have one problem I don't fly or own a plane. And i cant afford to hire some one so maybe i should just forget about this. I have done the best I could with the spelling on this with out going to get a dictionary the spell check dose'nt work I tried to download it but this is'ent my computer so I dont want to mess with it too much.

[arctichomesteader]

There are some other places with DNR land for sale on the road system, potentially better locations.

[rotorhead]

Assuming that money is an issue (isn't it always, no matter who you're talking about?) I'd still recommend looking into properties down the road between Kenai and Homer. There's usually lots of land for sale down there and there's always some that isn't going to break the bank. The DNR sales have gotten a lot more expensive over the years, and properties that are accessible by road bring a premium from the state so buying from a private owner via a realtor isn't always that much more and can be a lot less hassle paperwork-wise.

Almost all the development along the lower Kenai peninsula is right along the highway, there's only a couple small towns between Kenai and Homer to speak of. Plenty of the properties for sale down there are gonna be accessed by some pretty iffy roads, mud tracks is more like it. Of course, thats one of the issues that makes them affordable. If you're expecting that and have a capable 4wd vehicle it's not always a big issue, especially if you're not using it over the winter.

No matter where you end up buying, I always recommend that you check it out personally before buying. I bought some property around Soldotna a few years back and you wouldn't believe some of the cr@p I ran across that looked great on the internet but was either accessible only by heavy construction equipment or surrounded by garbage dumps for neighbors. Always put boots on the dirt before writing a check, there's some pretty "creative" real estate agents out there who know how to make stuff look better than it really is.

[codwyguy]

Thanks for the info I wont buy land without seeing it first. We will be coming up to look in Sept. I will keep all of your segestions in mind.

[warptman]

Eye Hoep ewe hav aye grate trep up to Aleska.

[megensmom]

How about buying some land up in Circle or Central? There is a BEAUTIFUL resort that is for sell very reasonable and you could hunt and fish and also run the resort and make a good income. The resort is remote in Circle Hot Springs. Or there might even be some land up there for sale.

[Sunset_Va]

cr@p I ran across that looked great on the internet but was either accessible only by heavy construction equipment or surrounded by garbage dumps for neighbors. Always put boots on the dirt before writing a check, there's some pretty "creative" real estate agents out there who know how to make stuff look better than it really is.

Caveat Emptor

Very good advice,Rotorhead, I have seen so many Alaskan properties advertised , that looked super. But 300 yds or maybe even 30 ft away could be a dump like you said or the access road is a trail. Perhaps Google Earth could help on that, if the location could be pinpointed?

[SeeBee]

I heard about that snow madness thing, and now it's confirmed!. You guys are all nuts up there. Funny, but nuts...