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Old 06-08-2008, 09:09 AM
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I've read about that, there was a problem in Detroit with that. A friend told me that in Ohio there was a couple of guys actually stealing it from the reserves in the ground at gas stations. Are they doing that where you live also? Geeez, really makes me want to head down to the lower 48 LOL.
Yes. There was a gas station that was relieved of 800 gallons of premium fuel this past week. Also watch out for price gouging. I just received an email from a friend in Oregon that shows a CA gas station where the prices are over $5/gallon. People are also stealing catalytic converters off of trucks, SUVs & cars. If you're coming down my way give me a jingle & we'll have lunch or dinner.

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Old 06-08-2008, 02:38 PM
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This article is from mainstream press- so maybe youll believe it more

I say F the banks , the realtors , the credit monsters and take the US back. If everyone said 'enough Ive had it and rented and didnt buy anymore crap to impress their family and neighbors and got back to reality from the debt dopepushers we'd be healthy and strong again.

The banks and world financial system can go at anytime-- get on the damn sidelines.

Can I heat my living quarters or go to a place where I can fast if the power goes out?--( And not to the local Fema camp or red cross gymnasium and sleep on a cot, with all the people from the other side of town) , can I eat and hygiene if I cant get to a chinamart for a month?




The housing market

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From The Economist print edition

House prices are falling even faster than during the Great Depression

“A DESTABILISING contraction in nationwide house prices does not seem the most probable outcome...nominal house prices in the aggregate have rarely fallen and certainly not by very much.” Alan Greenspan's soothing, if rather verbose, words on America's housing market in 2005 rank high on history's list of infamous predictions. But to be fair, most American economists shared his view that it was highly unlikely that average nationwide home prices would drop. That was the sort of thing that happened only during a deep depression, like the 1930s.

Unfortunately, new figures this week reveal that house prices have already fallen by more over the past 12 months than in any year during the Great Depression. The S&P/Case-Shiller national index fell by 14.1% in the year to the first quarter. Admittedly, other property indices show smaller drops, but most economists now favour this measure. The index goes back only 20 years, but Robert Shiller, an economist at Yale University and co-inventor of the index, has compiled a version that stretches back more than a century. This shows that the latest fall in nominal prices is already much bigger than the 10.5% drop in 1932, at the worst point of the Depression.

And things are even worse than they look. In the deflationary 1930s, America's general price level was falling, so in real terms home prices declined much less than they did nominally. Today inflation is running at a brisk pace, so property prices have fallen by a staggering 18% in real terms over the past year. In nominal terms, the average home is now worth 16% less than at the peak in 2006, and the large overhang of unsold houses suggests that prices have further to fall. If so, this housing bust could well see a bigger cumulative fall in prices than the 26% real drop over the five years to 1933. Most people would call that a pretty destabilising contraction.

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Old 06-09-2008, 01:42 AM
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Yes. There was a gas station that was relieved of 800 gallons of premium fuel this past week. Also watch out for price gouging. I just received an email from a friend in Oregon that shows a CA gas station where the prices are over $5/gallon. People are also stealing catalytic converters off of trucks, SUVs & cars. If you're coming down my way give me a jingle & we'll have lunch or dinner.
Thanks for the info. It looks like we'll be leaving Canada into N. Dakota and thanks for the offer. Another thing that worries me is the heat lol. Has been in the 90's in NY, OH and CT. where we're headed and let me tell you, I hate heat and humidity lol.

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Old 06-09-2008, 10:59 AM
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Lots of gas station drive offs too.

People stealing used cooking oil from restaraunts to make biodiesel.

Theives drilling holes in your gas tank to steal your gas.

And although prices and home values may be dropping, property taxes are increasing.

Hmmmm.

Have a nice day!

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Old 06-09-2008, 01:43 PM
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My locking gas cap door froze this past winter, so I had to break it to open. Probably just as well, since someone would probably break it now.

I've returned to some of the things I used to do back in the early 80s when prices were high relative to income, such as only buying 4 or 5 gallons at a time so that it is difficult to siphon. If someone drills a hole in your tank, it will cost the same to repair whether you have 4 gallons or a tankful, so may as well let them get less.

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Old 06-09-2008, 08:04 PM
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Yes I checked that; they require papers from the vet that their rabies shots are current within the last 3 years. They just got theirs in April so they are good to go, plus I have their health certificates from the vet from April. Are those the papers you're referring to?
Alaskapat, I believe the vet certificate has to be LESS than 30 days old, and they have to have heartworm check as well....any vet should be able to tell you for sure.

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Old 06-09-2008, 09:33 PM
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Yes, it's more like a health certificate. More than simply rabies vaccination, but that's part of it, and it has to be recent.

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Old 06-09-2008, 10:01 PM
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Alaskapat, I believe the vet certificate has to be LESS than 30 days old, and they have to have heartworm check as well....any vet should be able to tell you for sure.
I will check this since we aren't leaving for a few days due to some set-backs. Thanks.

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Old 06-10-2008, 06:06 PM
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I will check this since we aren't leaving for a few days due to some set-backs. Thanks.
The health certificate has to be gotten within the past 30 days. I've never had to get a heartworm check to get it.

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Old 06-10-2008, 06:35 PM
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ClassicSatch, too funny...when I saw the picture of your new place, it dawned on me, I am sitting less than a mile from you-and even stranger-I know the previous owner

Beautiful home, great setting, nice handy location-you done good!

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