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Old 06-04-2008, 02:23 PM
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Satch, I wouldn't justify this Canadian's petty little snarlings by offering any sort of justification for the decisions that you and your wife have made. I believe that the only other time this poster flew in out of the blue from under it's bridge and posted in this forum, it barfed out some mean spirited and ignorant little rant directed at Rance. He just laughed it off and you should too because it isn't worth any other response.

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Old 06-04-2008, 03:10 PM
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Satch, I wouldn't justify this Canadian's petty little snarlings by offering any sort of justification for the decisions that you and your wife have made. I believe that the only other time this poster flew in out of the blue from under it's bridge and posted in this forum, it barfed out some mean spirited and ignorant little rant directed at Rance. He just laughed it off and you should too because it isn't worth any other response.
You're right Met. I shouldn't have wasted my time on that ****-ant. Of course, if I was a Canadian, I'd probably be a bit of an angry person myself.

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Old 06-04-2008, 10:39 PM
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Here in the midcentral Missouri our gas prices are.....$3.79 . What are your gas prices today$$$$$$$$$$$$Blu BAnks
Take a look at this article:
newsminer.com • High fuel prices spark panic in rural Alaska villages

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Old 06-05-2008, 02:50 AM
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When a state is one of the largest domestic producers of crude oil yet it somehow manages to simultaneously have the highest retail prices for refined petroleum products (gasoline, diesel, etc.) it's telling you something. We're in the exact same situation with the oil resource that SE Alaska was in with the timber business...namely we export our valuable raw materials at below wholesale and import finished products back at high retail...plus shipping costs.

We should build a huge refinery in Valdez and sell everyone the finished products ourselves while providing a reliable and inexpensive local source for Alaskans. There's a world-wide shortage of refining capacity, and it's often stated as one of the reasons for the recent dramatic run-up in prices. It'd take money by the metric ton to build it, but thats something that both the oil companies and the state have in abundance these days.

Yes, refineries are dirty, ugly, and polluting. Yes, Valdez is a beautiful looking place that would be unalterably changed by the process. That said, the environment in Valdez and that area of Prince William Sound has already been irrevocably damaged by the Exxon Valdez spill. It's the maritime equivalent of a "brownfield" building site, already heavily and more-or-less permanently contaminated. In that respect, you could hardly pick a better spot to locate a petrochemical complex.

It'd be a huge bonus for the community job-wise, both during the construction phase and afterwards. It'd be good for the state in many ways as well, both tax-wise and energy-independence-wise.

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Old 06-05-2008, 03:12 AM
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When a state is one of the largest domestic producers of crude oil yet it somehow manages to simultaneously have the highest retail prices for refined petroleum products (gasoline, diesel, etc.) it's telling you something. We're in the exact same situation with the oil resource that SE Alaska was in with the timber business...namely we export our valuable raw materials at below wholesale and import finished products back at high retail...plus shipping costs.

We should build a huge refinery in Valdez and sell everyone the finished products ourselves while providing a reliable and inexpensive local source for Alaskans. There's a world-wide shortage of refining capacity, and it's often stated as one of the reasons for the recent dramatic run-up in prices. It'd take money by the metric ton to build it, but thats something that both the oil companies and the state have in abundance these days.

Yes, refineries are dirty, ugly, and polluting. Yes, Valdez is a beautiful looking place that would be unalterably changed by the process. That said, the environment in Valdez and that area of Prince William Sound has already been irrevocably damaged by the Exxon Valdez spill. It's the maritime equivalent of a "brownfield" building site, already heavily and more-or-less permanently contaminated. In that respect, you could hardly pick a better spot to locate a petrochemical complex.

It'd be a huge bonus for the community job-wise, both during the construction phase and afterwards. It'd be good for the state in many ways as well, both tax-wise and energy-independence-wise.
[clap-clap-clap] Believe me, as you know my friend, I'm a recent transplant here. But I couldn't agree more with everything you just stated. It's absolutely pathetic that in a state overflowing with incredible resources, we have to pay out the proverbial WAZOO for energy.

What is it going to take, outside of outright secession from the Republic, to obtain the right to go after the incredible natural resources available in this great state? Well before I moved here, I was disgusted by the fact that idiot politicians from other states, almost always liberals, could stop the development and usage of the oil and natural gas reserves here in Alaska simply because the eco-nuts would abandon them in the next election.

Since when should a ModCut like Ed Markey(D-MA) or others of his ilk dictate to Alaskans how the land and resources in this state should be utilized? My apologies for interjecting any politics into this but God help us all if that joke Obama gets elected. Between the global warming fraud and the utterly insane and useless "remedies" that Obama espouses to fight said scam, this country and especially Alaska stands to suffer greatly economically and socially if the Surrendercrats take complete control of the government.

Sorry, once again, for a bit of a rant. But my decision to move here has, so far, proven to be one of the best in my life. Tbh, I love it here.

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Old 06-05-2008, 10:21 AM
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[clap-clap-clap] Believe me, as you know my friend, I'm a recent transplant here. But I couldn't agree more with everything you just stated. It's absolutely pathetic that in a state overflowing with incredible resources, we have to pay out the proverbial WAZOO for energy.

What is it going to take, outside of outright secession from the Republic, to obtain the right to go after the incredible natural resources available in this great state? Well before I moved here, I was disgusted by the fact that idiot politicians from other states, almost always liberals, could stop the development and usage of the oil and natural gas reserves here in Alaska simply because the eco-nuts would abandon them in the next election.

Since when should a jackass like Ed Markey(D-MA) or others of his ilk dictate to Alaskans how the land and resources in this state should be utilized? My apologies for interjecting any politics into this but God help us all if that joke Obama gets elected. Between the global warming fraud and the utterly insane and useless "remedies" that Obama espouses to fight said scam, this country and especially Alaska stands to suffer greatly economically and socially if the Surrendercrats take complete control of the government.

Sorry, once again, for a bit of a rant. But my decision to move here has, so far, proven to be one of the best in my life. Tbh, I love it here.
I agree with you completely except for one thing. You posted "Surrendecrats" - actually it's "Surrendecraps."

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Old 06-07-2008, 04:17 AM
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Last time I got gas at home (Cordova) it was $4.79 a gallon, this was probably 3 weeks ago. I all but stopped driving and have been walking most places (for my thighs as much as the environment ) I came to Anchorage about a week ago for my child's surgery and gas here is $4.09 a gallon. I have had to gas up here.

I should add, to put it in perspectove, we got to Cordova a year ago and gas then was around $4.50 a gallon so while it sounds high, I don't think it's actually gone up as fast as I am hearing from the lower 48. I expect next time the barge comes in it will rise though.

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Old 06-07-2008, 10:05 PM
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In Las Vegas- 3.89 to 3.99. It's killing me, but I'm one of those stubborn girls that refuses to sell her F-150 4x4... not like I could sell it now anyway. ha.

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Old 06-07-2008, 11:16 PM
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Race fuel is still not rising in price with regular gas. Strange...

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