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Unread 07-09-2008, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Floyd_Davidson:

Did you watch the video from "youtube"? If that's the case, you should remember that ANWR was just one of numerous places mentioned. And yes, I believe that if the US increases oil supply from fields on US soil, the price per barrel will certainly come down, and so fuel prices. But regardless of how many oil fields there are in the US, as long as Alaska increases oil production, this is good for the AK's economy regardless of how you and I feel about it.

The price at the pump being high may be bad for the public, but good for local, State, and Federal governments. It's a simple as that. If the Federal government and Congress really wanted the price of oil lowered, they would dump Federal Reserve oil into the market, and also allow drilling in places like ANWR as well as numerous areas that have been made illegal for drilling. Because of the high price of oil, coupled to taxes, the AK's economy is doing extremely well. If the price per barrel comes down a lot, AK's economy will suffer unless more oil production is allowed.

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Unread 07-09-2008, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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I heard (unsure how true) that a big way for the US to lower use of oil is to stop or cut down drastically buying bottled water. Don't forget, the oil that we get from other countries is also used to make plastic. Has anyone else heard about this?
Americans are cutting down their purchases of bottled water because gasoline is now so expensive they can no longer justify spending $1.25 per liter for water!

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Unread 07-09-2008, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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Floyd_Davidson:

Did you watch the video from "youtube"? If that's the case, you should remember that ANWR was just one of numerous places mentioned.
Yeah, I watched it. Hilarious. You people admit the guy is a jerk and then claim what he said makes sense. It didn't. It just more fund raising.

He said that it is illegal to drill for oil in northern Alaska. That's a hoot. They've been drilling like crazy in northern Alaska since the late 1940's.

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And yes, I believe that if the US increases oil supply from fields on US soil, the price per barrel will certainly come down, and so fuel prices.
But you don't pay attention to detail. The price would come down all right... by pennies per gallon, according to the Department of Energy. Absolutely insignificant. Anyone who wants to drill ANWR to lower the price of gasoline simply hasn't got a clue, RAY.
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Unread 07-09-2008, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Yeah, I watched it. Hilarious. You people admit the guy is a jerk and then claim what he said makes sense. It didn't. It just more fund raising.

He said that it is illegal to drill for oil in northern Alaska. That's a hoot. They've been drilling like crazy in northern Alaska since the late 1940's.



But you don't pay attention to detail. The price would come down all right... by pennies per gallon, according to the Department of Energy. Absolutely insignificant. Anyone who wants to drill ANWR to lower the price of gasoline simply hasn't got a clue, RAY.
Well, I guess that you didn't pay attention to what was said on the video, for ANWR was only one of the numerous "oil" places. All of these areas (together, not individually) throughout the US-are just one of the supposedly "3-Ways To Lower Gasoline Prices." There were two more ways told about, drilling and production being one of the three "ways To Lower Fuel Prices."

I bet that if we have a show of hands right here in this forum, and only from Alaskans, the majority would agree with the video above once politics are put aside. The guy is not liked by many people, but likes or dislikes is not one of the "3-Ways To Lower Fuel Prices."

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Unread 07-09-2008, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Wasilla
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Well, I guess that you didn't pay attention to what was said on the video, for ANWR was only one of the numerous "oil" places. All of these areas (together, not individually) throughout the US-are just one of the supposedly "3-Ways To Lower Gasoline Prices." There were two more ways told about, drilling and production being one of the three "ways To Lower Fuel Prices."

I bet that if we have a show of hands right here in this forum, and only from Alaskans, the majority would agree with the video above once politics are put aside. The guy is not liked by many people, but likes or dislikes is not one of the "3-Ways To Lower Fuel Prices."
I love Newt. I'd pay good money to see him crush both Obama and McCain in a debate. Because he's a conservative, and he got caught dunking his doughnut in someone not his wife, the media has vilified him(If it was Bill Clinton, they wouldn't have cared).

However, I agree wholeheartedly with that video. Enough is enough.
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Unread 07-09-2008, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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Well, I guess that you didn't pay attention to what was said on the video,
He was using "facts" that are not true.

You like the emotions it evokes though...

But I want valid solutions based on true facts.
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Unread 07-09-2008, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Wasilla
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He was using "facts" that are not true.

You like the emotions it evokes though...

But I want valid solutions based on true facts.
Umm, you think that you're smarter and know more than Newt Gingrich about such issues? Uh huh. You may know a bit more than most folks about ANWR due to your proximity but please don't be presumptuous enough to claim that you're better informed than someone like Gingrich who has made it his life to be knowledgeable about important national issues like energy.
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Unread 07-09-2008, 10:36 PM
 
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Because he's a conservative, and he got caught dunking his doughnut in someone not his wife, the media has vilified him(If it was Bill Clinton, they wouldn't have cared).
Are you serious? People wanted Bill Clinton impeached because of his infidelity, and then lying about it. Yet you think no one would care because he's Democrat? The whole world is out to get conservatives right?

I'm neither Democrat or Republican by the way, I think both parties are full of themselves. However I hate the whining that comes from both sides, the other side can supposedly do whatever they want, but because we are either democrat or republican (fill in the blank) we are treated so unfairly.

No disrespect to you personally by the way, just responding to your statement. Back to the topic at hand, I think everyone has made some good points in this thread, even you Satch.

I don't think either candidate in this upcoming election has a clear plan when it comes to gas prices, they are just going to go back and forth with eachother, and more than likely make a lot of promises that they can't keep. I do like to think optimistically though and believe that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, even if it's still a distance away.
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Unread 07-09-2008, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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Umm, you think that you're smarter and know more than Newt Gingrich about such issues?
I know damned well that anyone who says it is illegal to drill for oil in northern Alaska is clueless. Newt Gingrich comes to mind...

Are you following him around?


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Uh huh. You may know a bit more than most folks about ANWR due to your proximity but please don't be presumptuous enough to claim that you're better informed than someone like Gingrich who has made it his life to be knowledgeable about important national issues like energy.
Gingrich has never been worth listening to. He's got an ideological agenda, and that makes everything he does both suspect and irrelivant. We need leaders who can solve problems, not another Mao to tell us which thoughts are the right ones to have as we starve.
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Unread 07-09-2008, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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The whole world is out to get conservatives right?
They should be! :-)
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