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07-12-2008, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Classic Satch
Lol.
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It's quite funny depending on how you look at it. I decided to brush it off instead 
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07-12-2008, 05:16 PM
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Attention all planets of the Solar Federation:
Status:
"We have assumed control"
(set 1 day ago)
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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Step two and three on the gas prices.
2. Buy your wife a bike
3. Buy your kids a bike.
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07-12-2008, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by warptman
Step two and three on the gas prices.
2. Buy your wife a bike
3. Buy your kids a bike.
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How bout heating fuel?
Kidding aside, I do drive a Civic to work and back. My wife's compact SUV ('94 Sidekick) is real good on fuel, and she only drives it to work about 5 miles round trip, so she tops-off the 11-gallon tank every other week or so. Just replaced the alternator today, but it was a NAPA alternator with a lifetime warranty, so didn't have to pay for it this time.
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07-12-2008, 08:55 PM
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Attention all planets of the Solar Federation:
Status:
"We have assumed control"
(set 1 day ago)
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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I personally don't have a vehicle here in Bethel, I use my brother's or father's car when needed. I need to buy a rack for my mountain bike one of these days. The backpack can get heavy after a while.
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07-13-2008, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by warptman
I personally don't have a vehicle here in Bethel, I use my brother's or father's car when needed. I need to buy a rack for my mountain bike one of these days. The backpack can get heavy after a while.
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I remember years ago a GI riding a dirt bike (motorcycle) that had wide knobby tires. The idea for it was to ride through mud, soft ground, or tundra. Something like that would be perfect for Bethel, I imagine, at least during the summer. The tires were at least 10" wide. It was lightweight too, but don't know what bike brand it was.
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07-13-2008, 10:48 AM
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Rationally looking at all sides
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Interior AK
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Originally Posted by RayinAK
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Unless astrophysicists determine than there is an increase in solar energy output (which would contradict the 5-year low sunspot activity), I think any global warming similarities (if there even are similarities) between Earth and Mars are orthogonal (i.e. not directly related). The atmospheric composition and density between the two planets are so radically different it's doubtful that any useful correlation of data would result. And that's not including the difference in orbit, rotation, distance from the sun, and number of moons. At this point, until much more data and analysis has occured, comparing Earth and Mars is like comparing apples and oranges.
And for those attempting to debunk a global warming pattern by stating this is the coldest summer... global warming does disrupt natural weather patterns as the Earth attempts to regulate its temperature. Almost every weather model predicts abnormal cold weather in some areas, while other areas have abnormally hot weather (like TX and NM right now), before everything heats up. It is possible that the cold summer we're experiencing is similar to a light bulb burning really bright the second before it burns out.
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07-13-2008, 10:55 AM
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I live in NC but my heart is in Alaska
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Alaska, where women win the Iditarod and men mush poodles!
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Warpt needs a Segway. 
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07-13-2008, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MissingAll4Seasons
Unless astrophysicists determine than there is an increase in solar energy output (which would contradict the 5-year low sunspot activity), I think any global warming similarities (if there even are similarities) between Earth and Mars are orthogonal (i.e. not directly related). The atmospheric composition and density between the two planets are so radically different it's doubtful that any useful correlation of data would result. And that's not including the difference in orbit, rotation, distance from the sun, and number of moons. At this point, until much more data and analysis has occured, comparing Earth and Mars is like comparing apples and oranges.
And for those attempting to debunk a global warming pattern by stating this is the coldest summer... global warming does disrupt natural weather patterns as the Earth attempts to regulate its temperature. Almost every weather model predicts abnormal cold weather in some areas, while other areas have abnormally hot weather (like TX and NM right now), before everything heats up. It is possible that the cold summer we're experiencing is similar to a light bulb burning really bright the second before it burns out.
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According to a group of Russian scientists, and another group from China, we have been in a global cooling period for a while now, except for a few periods of warming because of solar activity. According to the Russians, "the solar activity (most of the flares) peaked in 2006, so earth should return to it's normal cooling within the next ten years." These Russians are betting against a group of UK scientists $1,000 each that the global cooling will continue.
The scientists who are telling us about global warming on earth are the same ones telling us about global warming in Mars. For example, NASA scientists.
Last edited by RayinAK; 07-13-2008 at 12:12 PM..
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07-14-2008, 02:53 PM
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Since Floyd relies so heavily on his so-called "facts", lets just take a closer look at what he considers to be the unrefutable truth:
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Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson
What I have said is a matter of public record. First, there are an average of over 400 individual toxic waste spills per year; and that has been true since production began.
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Production began in Prudhoe Bay in March 1977, but the State of Alaska didn't start tracking spills on the north slope (or anywhere else in the state) until 1995. So his statement about being true "since production began" can not be supported by any data collected by the State of Alaska, since there isn't any data.
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Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson
And we have a report from the State of Alaska telling us what those spills actually are. Granted that almost 90% of them are less than 100 gallons per spill... but the other 10% are not.
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There is no data on spills in Alaska prior to 1995, so his assertion is not true.
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Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson
Between 1995 and 2005 (a ten year period, which saw 4,481 individual spills)
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The actual number of spills on the north slope between 1995 and 2005 was 4,614 according to the State of Alaska Spills database. So Floyd is wrong again.
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Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson
there was a total of over 2 million gallons of toxic waste spilled, including 349,000 gallons of seawater with oil and gas mixed in, and 103,000 gallons of crude oil.
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There were 1,888,056.509 gallons and 111,118 pounds of substances spilled between 1995 and 2005 on the north slope, not all of them toxic. The amount of Processed Water (seawater mixed with oil) spills during the same period was 617 gallons. There is no gasoline mixed in Processed Water. The amount of crude oil spilled on the north slope between 1995 and 2005 was 103,963.663 gallons.
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Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson
That was prior to and does not include the largest single crude oil spill ever, a 201,000 gallon spill in March 2006.
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The amount of crude spilled on March 2, 2006 was 267,000 gallons.
Based upon the above, it would appear that Floyd is not as factually accurate as he claims to be. When it doesn't suit his agenda, he simply makes it up then tries to blame his fiction on other sources, like the State of Alaska claiming it was their data, when in reality it wasn't.
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