08-17-2008, 12:31 AM
Location: PNW Oregon USA
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There is a job transfer comming and I am in line for this one. It is a 5-6 year minimum durration on the Co end and possible term until retirement on my end. After visting on the summer a few times and the winter a few times We are very interested in this opportunity.
A couple questions first though.
Church, are there any authorized KJV preaching Baptist churches around? Are ther any church radio stations that are recieved?
Right now we use wood for our sole source of heat. Winter in our little hole drops up to 30" of snow(the most I have seen anyhow) and frequent temps as low as 8* for 13 days running, Average is 18" to 24" snow and 20* to 28*. I realize construction and wether play the major roll here, but how many cords would you expect to use heating a 3500sqft 1910 farm house like we have now. At current here we run between 9 and 12 cord per year depending on how hot the family wants the house and how much in and out they do. Also what is the avalability of wood, how long does it take to season in your climate for newly dropped green fir, what species of wood is avalible and how does that burn compared to what we have(alder, doug fir, maple, very little oak, very little madrone,some cherry). Is wood heat a sound idea in that part of the country, I hear lots about oil and would rather stay away if possible.
We also like to farm, how is your growing season for gardening? What do you folks do with farm animals and feed if you have any. At current we raise pigs, goats, beef, rabbits and chickens. The mild season they would have no problem the winter how do you deal with them, here we shelter them from the wind and call it good with plenty of busted water and feed. We have thought of horses for hunting and fishing purposes aswell
We searched the cost of living threads and it seems to be a wash from our end. Some thing higher and some lower, so that is not a major concern of our right now.
Hunting and fishing is a concern for all for of us however. We will not have a plane or a boat of anykind for a bit. How does both of these work for those that must drive to destination and then are moved by foot power?
I have never thought of asking this to anyone before now, but do you have elk in those parts.
Driving do you have or are you getting the Cali drivers that never need studs or chains and blow past and you see later backwards in the ditch? At current I drive a small 2wd toyota pu and have never needed more for a commuter. When the time comes I put on the chains, even though 2wd I have put them on the front also for steering durring ice storms and stroms of freezing rain. I would like to think that those living in your area would be fairly safe winter drivers but not the 10mph type unless the conditions warrent that type of speed.
This job has to possiblities one SE not sure where in that area and the other would be South Central, hoping for the second and living within and hours winter drive from Keni or Soldotna.
The opportunities are about 1 to 1.5 years down the road but the company is getting ready. Like I said Iam on this list and will be getting the family and my self ready aswell.
How is the logging in those parts? I have logged since I was 16 and still do on the side. Is that work still going up there? What are the odds of finding side work. Now I cut for a couple companies on the weekends when the fire danger comes along and their cutters don't want to work 7 days a week. Also set chokers when they need a spot filled on the weekends.
Thankyou for any help
Owl
08-17-2008, 03:26 AM
Location: Naptowne, Alaska
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Pretty much zero logging in south central now, a few years back there was some good activity removing the beetle kill down around Ninilchik and in Cooper Landing.
You can raise pretty much any livestock on the peninsula. Many do in my neighborhood of Sterling.
The only elk I know of reside wild on Kodiak Island. There was an elk farm not far from me in Sterling...but that shut down last year for reasons unknown to me.
Still fair moose hunting in my area as well as sheep and black bear. The sport fishing is great. There are even deer in some areas but you'd need a boat or plane to fly out as they are on islands out of Seward or Whittier and on Kodiak.
08-18-2008, 10:04 AM
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Driving do you have or are you getting the Cali drivers that never need studs or chains and blow past and you see later backwards in the ditch?
Though there are probably no official statistics, my feeling would be that the case is probably the opposite. Most newcomers, including myself when I first arrived, probably tend to be extra cautious driving in their first few winters (some maybe even too cautious, buts that’s another story). Most of the cars you see spun out in the ditch have Alaska plates on them, I honestly can’t remember the last time I saw one with out-of-state plates – though that is not necessarily a good indicator since Alaska has a very low percentage of cars displaying out-of-state plates in the first place due to the physical logistics.
My feeling is that your description above probably applies more to a small percentage of long time Alaska residents who get complacent and need a reminder every now and then that the rules of winter driving don’t become optional just because one qualifies for a PFD. It probably also applies to a select group of life-long native born Alaskans who never learned this lesson either.
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I would like to think that those living in your area would be fairly safe winter drivers but not the 10mph type unless the conditions warrent that type of speed.
Before moving to Alaska, I always thought that way too, but it didn’t take long after moving up here for my opinion to change. Alaska seems to have way more than its fair share of really terrible, discourteous, and outright dangerous drivers - and not just in winter either. There was a recent discussion here about this very topic as well:
News, Anchorage drivers crashing more often, insurer says.
My favorite acronym is simply BAD:
B ad
A laska
D rivers
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08-18-2008, 07:15 PM
Location: PNW Oregon USA
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No logging would believe it or not would be rough. My wife thinks I have pitch for blood. That is something that would be missed.
Good to know about the livestock. Farming is something that I use to teach kids how to work and how to be responceable. Now my kids think something is wrong when they have no animals to take care of, so do many of the kids that have stayed with us for any length of time.
Elk would be missed, hunting the others should fill the gap though. With deer being on island, is there boats that will drop and pick for hunting the islands? Or would you have to do the guide thing? Fishing I would think like here, find some water and give'r a try. Just that the fish maybe just a tad different than here with our little brookie mostly other than the steelies.
Driving sounds not terribly different from what we have now. Just seems as if even the smallest bit of commonsence could and would go a very long way. Staying on the road system would a 4wd be manditory or could you get by with a 2wd and studs/chains, like I said I have been laughed at for putting chains on the front just for steering in freezing rain & ice storms. 4wd would be utilized durring the off asphalt times, just that little commuter get so much better milage.
Thanks very much for the info.
The Boss said today that this happening and that I am inline for first pick of either location. Momma is ready and says go ahead on'er she and the kids are pump like I haven't seen in a while. To day she said she booked flights in june 09 for all of us so the kids can see first hand what Alaska is all about. Just like all our vacations up there in the past, fly into Anch, and rent a car an go by seat of the pants, If you find a motel open so be it if not then you sleep in the rig or if nice enough on the ground beside the car.
Damn a year and a half away and momma and me are completly jacked
Thanks
Owl
08-18-2008, 07:37 PM
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There's an elk farm down here near Homer out on the North Fork.
I also saw photographs of Dall sheep supposedly near here, but I've never seen them.
As for churches, there is a KJVO church here in Homer, and there are several KJV preferred churches in the area that also teach from the original languages.
Driving depends upon where you end up. Here in the Homer area, we need 4WD and studs on some of the roads, but here in town and up in Soldotna/Kenai, I've done just fine with 4WD and no studs.
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People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)