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08-31-2008, 03:37 AM
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I think I am better now :)
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Let's get back on topic.. this thread is about Palin as governor not about NC.
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The thread was about Palin as governor, but NC brought up the NC Mayor versus AK gov qualifications for VP, right  all we did is respond to the post from NC....
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08-31-2008, 08:09 AM
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If being a senator is prime presidential training, why haven't we had one as president in the half-century since JFK? Whereas we have had governors from California, Georgia, Arkansas, and Texas as presidents.
A governor's advantage is executive management experience. A senator doesn't come close to making the decisions and formulating policy that a governor does on a daily basis. Obama's actual Senate experience is less than 180 days -- he's been running for president ever since. In terms of actual executive experience, Palin has more than Obama, Biden and McCain combined. And don't forget, she also has had to deal with having Russia on her western border and Canada on the east. That can't be ignored.
I'm a rock solid yellow dog Democrat, but I have to admit I'm taking a second look at McCain because of Palin.
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Just because you're next to Canada and Russia, that doesn't mean you have foreign experience. I agree that she is impressive, but what did she do in terms of dealing with Russia and Canada.
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08-31-2008, 10:21 AM
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If you have to deal with the politics of DC as a governor you might as well be dealing with a foreign country. They treat the states like you are in a different country, unless you live in a liberal state.
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08-31-2008, 12:57 PM
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I guess maybe she dealt with Canada and Russia the same way Biden and Obama did.
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09-01-2008, 01:58 AM
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What's not to like?
The nation will find our governor likeable - charming, just the cat's meow. That doesn't mean anything, of course, about her ability to serve as VP or P. She is a hard core traditional conservative good ol' gal. She's on the side of big business, but will look out for the little guy (gal?) while she's at it. Unfortunately, the greed of big business and corrupt government has already destroyed Alaska. Ask the women dying of cancer all over the state in their early fifties. Ask the men dying of cancer all over the state. Ask the Alaska Natives who have lost the ability to subsist. Most people "outside" don't know about the toxic dumping by the military all over this state. The illusion of safe business practice while oil spills and the pipeline rusts out and leaks...I could go on and on. But hey, how perfect for the Republicans and McCain. Both Sarah and this exploited state will play very well....very well indeed, right into the hands of the big business agenda.
My question is, does anyone wonder or wince at the obvious tokenism of this choice? 
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09-01-2008, 02:02 AM
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Hardly, A Governor vs. a Mayor....ummm
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Palin went from mayor to governor and has little experience other than committee chair on an oil committee for the state. She is a "hockey mom" though, hunts moose, does all the traditional Alaska lifestyle stuff. Very admirable.
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09-01-2008, 02:11 AM
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Thank God its green again...yeah!!!
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Yeah I don't know all there is to know about her although I am finding new stuff everyday about her. My biggest question is this investigation going on with her. I have heard a couple of versions on this. I would love to hear what she has to say bout it all. Altho the ex-brother in law seems like he deserved it , real peace of work that guy.
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09-01-2008, 02:13 AM
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I think I am better now :)
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Whether she hired the ex-bro-in-law or not?? don't know, she did her job as should have been done - and took out the trash.
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09-01-2008, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Coaster
If being a senator is prime presidential training, why haven't we had one as president in the half-century since JFK? Whereas we have had governors from California, Georgia, Arkansas, and Texas as presidents.
A governor's advantage is executive management experience. A senator doesn't come close to making the decisions and formulating policy that a governor does on a daily basis. Obama's actual Senate experience is less than 180 days -- he's been running for president ever since. In terms of actual executive experience, Palin has more than Obama, Biden and McCain combined. And don't forget, she also has had to deal with having Russia on her western border and Canada on the east. That can't be ignored.
I'm a rock solid yellow dog Democrat, but I have to admit I'm taking a second look at McCain because of Palin.
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actually, it's not true to say that we haven't had senators become President since 1960. it's that none has been DIRECTLY elected from senate/house since 1960. LBJ was senate majority leader in the 1950s, then VP, then Pres. Nixon was Senator CAlif, VP, then Pres. Ford was Representative- MI, then VP, then Pres
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09-01-2008, 11:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coaster
If being a senator is prime presidential training, why haven't we had one as president in the half-century since JFK? Whereas we have had governors from California, Georgia, Arkansas, and Texas as presidents.
A governor's advantage is executive management experience. A senator doesn't come close to making the decisions and formulating policy that a governor does on a daily basis. Obama's actual Senate experience is less than 180 days -- he's been running for president ever since. In terms of actual executive experience, Palin has more than Obama, Biden and McCain combined. And don't forget, she also has had to deal with having Russia on her western border and Canada on the east. That can't be ignored.
I'm a rock solid yellow dog Democrat, but I have to admit I'm taking a second look at McCain because of Palin.
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On the point of having Russia on the border. Russia is across the Bering sea and across the Arctic. If anyone deals with Russia it will be the US Air Force and the US Navy, not the governor of Alaska. I agree about Canada though, watch those guys closely.
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