Alaskan Politics (statewide and nationwide) (to live in, boundaries, cultures)

[Grannysroost]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

Um, does anyone realize that this thread has gone off topic? We'd better watch it or Rance will ban us all and close the thread.

yahahahahahahah like he has yet...he knows what we're doing, I despise that....and Barking Owl started.....

[Arcticthaw]

Let's see"

The Katie John case,
A dual view case of subsidence rights and State sovereign rights to regulate fish and game granted by congress in the state hood act. Case was abandoned by Gov. Tony Knowles (D) during a re election bid seeming to try and gain the Native vote. IMHO

http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/09/...ffiliate.7.pdf

Maybe someone else will have luck finding the other two cases mentioned. I am sure they exist, goggle, 9th circuit court of appeals, and AK state courts searches of the web sites reveal nothing. Other searches reveal biased bloggs.

One last thing, I fully support the subsistence lifestyle in Alaska by any one wishing to eek out that kind of existence. I only have one proviso which is use only pre white man tools, methods, etc. Enhancing traditional skills and lifestyle. So send all your guns, boats and motors, ATV, cars, trucks, propane, gasoline, diesel, plywood, tin, food stamps, rope, modern fishing nets, freezers, etc. to Carslile trucking in Fairbanks in care of Arcticthaw and I will arrange pick up.

I am not trying to sound mean or anything, just that subsistence is being abused by those not living where they claim subsistence. If you travel by commercial carrier to subsist, you don't need it, cause you don't live it. Might be part of the cause of apparent over harvesting in some remote areas.


"Many of our relatives are going to want their traditional

foods for next winter but it is going to be very hard for us living out here to

harvest what we need for ourselves, not to mention our relatives in urban

Alaska. Fuel costs are very high and it will costs hundreds of dollars more for us to

go Subsistence fishing, hunting, and gathering this year. If our urban relatives

come out for a visit they need to bring cash for gas, and a few cases of food stuff

from Costco, fishing tackle, nets, and ammo for hunting to help out in getting our

food for everybody."
Quoted From this post. http://www.city-data.com/forum/alask...gy-crisis.html

[Grannysroost]

Originally Posted by HighlandLady

You are so right, Met...
20 years ago for me as well, Joe-Joe. My bloodline could be considered boring, I suppose...nearly full-blooded Scots, but had a grandfather hail from Ireland.

You are just a baby too, and I "almost" have kids yer age.....was catholic..little BCP education then, ...hijacking again??? whatever that has to do with it, but regardless...

[Grannysroost]

Originally Posted by Arcticthaw

Let's see"

The Katie John case,
A dual view case of subsidence rights and State sovereign rights to regulate fish and game granted by congress in the state hood act. Case was abandoned by Gov. Tony Knowles (D) during a re election bid seeming to try and gain the Native vote. IMHO

http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/09/...ffiliate.7.pdf

Maybe someone else will have luck finding the other two cases mentioned. I am sure they exist, goggle, 9th circuit court of appeals, and AK state courts searches of the web sites reveal nothing. Other searches reveal biased bloggs.

One last thing, I fully support the subsistence lifestyle in Alaska by any one wishing to eek out that kind of existence. I only have one proviso which is use only pre white man tools, methods, etc. Enhancing traditional skills and lifestyle. So send all your guns, boats and motors, ATV, cars, trucks, propane, gasoline, diesel, plywood, tin, food stamps, rope, modern fishing nets, freezers, etc. to Carslile trucking in Fairbanks in care of Arcticthaw and I will arrange pick up.

I am not trying to sound mean or anything, just that subsistence is being abused by those not living where they claim subsistence. If you travel by commercial carrier to subsist, you don't need it, cause you don't live it. Might be part of the cause of apparent over harvesting in some remote areas.


"Many of our relatives are going to want their traditional

foods for next winter but it is going to be very hard for us living out here to

harvest what we need for ourselves, not to mention our relatives in urban

Alaska. Fuel costs are very high and it will costs hundreds of dollars more for us to

go Subsistence fishing, hunting, and gathering this year. If our urban relatives

come out for a visit they need to bring cash for gas, and a few cases of food stuff

from Costco, fishing tackle, nets, and ammo for hunting to help out in getting our

food for everybody."
Quoted From this post. http://www.city-data.com/forum/alask...gy-crisis.html

Good job researching ArticThaw - but too much work this time of night...and you are right - bring us money and food

[DreamChasers8]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

And sorry, but she's got no right to try to capitalize on her husband being 1/16 Yup'ik. That means nothing. Hell I'm probably 1/16 Chinese from back when Ghengis Khan went zipping through Northern Europe.

LOL...to damn funny Met, and yet so true, we are all mixed with something now a days.

[DreamChasers8]

My hubby is alot of polish and I tease him with the "dumb poloc" jokes all the time. Tell ya the truth he actually tells the best ones...guess it takes one to know one.

Y'all are gonna hate me but it's been 10 years since high school for me...guess I'm the baby of the bunch!

[HighlandLady]

No...it just keeps the rest of us young

[DreamChasers8]

Good cause with a house full of kids and bills and a my oldest daughter turned 15...I feel old sometimes!

[HighlandLady]

I hear you...son will be turning 16 in a couple months. I think I will cry.

[DreamChasers8]

Mine too in March! I will cry when she makes me a granma while I'm in my 30's