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09-19-2008, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Grannysroost
And if that were done, the ballots would be no sense to the English speaking, as if they would now anyway  Shut eyes and pick one 
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That is indeed the point! If they can't all be in NaDene, then they can't all be in English either.
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09-19-2008, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson
Your opinion is interesting, but mostly only in how the courts disagree with you.
Nonsense from the first word on.
The Department of the Interior recognizes a total of 562 sovereign tribes within the United States:
Bureau of Indian Affairs
And the 229 of those in Alaska are recognized by the State of Alaska:
Alaska Division of Community and Regional Affairs
So the votes of those who speak English are preferred to the votes of those who speak Yup'ik??? Nonsense.
You should consider the accuracy of what you say.
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I have checked the accuracy of what I posted, and it is both verifiable and factual, unlike your posts. Apparently you need to actually read the sources you post. From the Alaska Division of Community and Regional Affairs link you provided:
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While these corporations are not a form of Government (they are, in fact, private for-profit corporations), they may be perceived as the entity formed in lieu of a reservation system.
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See also http://justice.uaa.alaska.edu/rlinks/natives/ak_sovereignty.html
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In Alaska v. Native Village of Venetie Tribal Government, decided on November 20, 1996, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals overturned the decision of the Federal District Court for the District of Alaska and ruled that ANCSA did not extinguish "Indian Country" in Alaska, as is claimed by the State of Alaska, and that land occupied by the Neets'aii Gwich'in people of Venetie and Arctic Village is Indian Country where tribal powers prevail over state law in areas such as taxation, zoning, and land use management, civil and criminal misdemeanor jurisdiction over tribal members. The U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the State of Alaska's appeal in the case on December 10, 1997; Venetie was represented by the Native American Rights Fund (NARF). On February 25, 1998, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously reversed the Ninth Circuit decision, ruling that the tribe's land was not "Indian Country."
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Once again, Alaskan native tribes are not, and never have been sovereign. If they don't want to be part of the United States and learn English like every other US citizen, born or naturalized, is required to do, then let them renounce their US citizenship and all the privileges that are associated with citizenship.
The only one spewing nonsense here is you.
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09-19-2008, 04:58 PM
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There is only 1 tribe in Alaska that is sovereign. That's Metlkatla. There are 5 other communities in southeast Alaska that contain tribal trust land held by the BIA but they do not have reservation status.
Not really sure it makes any difference anyway.
http://usa.usembassy.de/etexts/soc/bia.pdf
[SIZE=5]What is a reservation? [/SIZE][SIZE=4]In the U.S. there are only two kinds of reserved lands that are well-known: military and Indian. An Indian reservation is land a Tribe reserved for itself when it relinquished its other land areas to the U.S.
through treaties. More recently, Congressional acts, Executive Orders and administrative acts have created reservations. Today some reservations have non-Indian residents and land owners living within
the boundaries of reservations.
There are approximately 275 Indian land areas in the U.S. administered as Indian reservations (reservations, pueblos, rancherias, communities, etc.). The largest is the Navajo Reservation of some 16-million acres of land in Arizona, New Mexico, and Utah. Many of the smaller reservations are less than 1,000 acres with the smallest less than 100 acres. On each reservation, the local governing authority is the tribal government.
Approximately 56.2-million acres of land are held in trust by the United States for various Indian Tribes and individuals. Much of this is reservation land; however, not all reservation land is trust land. On
behalf of the United States, the Secretary of the Interior serves as trustee for such lands with many routine trustee responsibilities delegated to BIA officials. The States in which reservations are located have limited powers over them, and only as provided by
Federal law. On some reservations, however, a high percentage of the land is owned and occupied by non-Indians. Some 140 reservations have entirely tribally owned land.
[/SIZE][SIZE=1]Bureau of Indian Affairs, BIA, DOI, Interior http://www.doi.gov/bia/aitoday/q_and_a.html (broken link) (3 of 10) [10/24/2001 2:06:35 PM]
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09-19-2008, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stiffnecked
There is only 1 tribe in Alaska that is sovereign. That's Metlkatla. There are 5 other communities in southeast Alaska that contain tribal trust land held by the BIA but they do not have reservation status.
Not really sure it makes any difference anyway.
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That is correct, which I posted earlier.
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09-19-2008, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Siouxcia
Re-read my post and show me where I lumped anyone together and read where I agree there should be a common language. You've posted a few statements that are have been proven wrong. In addition to perhaps paying a bit more attention to what others have posted, as I posted before after one of your posts, Google is your friend.
Oh, and is your 'spick' a mis-spelling or a Freudian slip? 
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ok, I was going to stay out of this, but I corrected the letter to Stick, you must have been responding before I made the correction. I was not taking what you said apart, in fact I was agreeing, I was stating I feel English should be the official language, I did say I was wrong; too bad others can not admit to this. Other than this example, I would like to know what else I have posted that has been proven wrong: nada. I generally do not agree with you, but that isn't a reason to get personal. I am sorry you think it is necessary to attack, if you feel better, good for you...
Nita
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09-19-2008, 05:34 PM
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I am downright amazed at what I can destroy
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I declare the language English dead.
Now we must speak warptanese.
alksjdpfieh jfoaiwethpauiwth uireta;isjhdga[ut ireupaiopyi pihfioatrejh!
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09-19-2008, 05:40 PM
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Alaska Division of Community and Regional Affairs
A federally-recognized tribe is located in the community -- the Metlakatla Indian Community (Annette Island Federal Reserve). The population of the community consists of 89.7% Alaska Native or part Native. It is a traditional Tsimshian community on the federal Annette Island Reserve, with an active economy and subsistence lifestyle. It is the only Indian reservation in Alaska. The community was not part of ANSCA. The 86,000 acre Island reservation and surrounding 3,000 feet of coastal waters are locally-controlled and not subject to state jurisdiction. The community regulates commercial fishing in these waters, and also operates its own tribal court system, including a Tribal Juvenile Court and Tribal Appellate Court. Salmon, halibut, cod, seaweed, clams and waterfowl are important subsistence food sources. During the 2000 U.S. Census, total housing units numbered 531, and vacant housing units numbered 62. Vacant housing units used only seasonally numbered 11. U.S. Census data for Year 2000 showed 501 residents as employed. The unemployment rate at that time was 20.85 percent, although 48.98 percent of all adults were not in the work force. The median household income was $43,516, per capita income was $16,140, and 8.01 percent of residents were living below the poverty level.
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09-19-2008, 05:54 PM
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I won't jump on you, but I'll rep you. Best post in the entire thread, I couldn't have said things better myself.
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Thanks for the points. As you can see i have a long way to go.
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09-19-2008, 06:11 PM
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And you think "abstinence education" works?? Statistics show that just as many kids have sex after that "education," but are more likely to end up with pregnancies and STDs. It's called reality, and I believe in realistically telling kids/teens how to protect themselves if they have sex - which most of them will before they're legal adults. Teaching someone about protection isn't the same as encouraging sex, just like fire safety drills don't encourage arson.  As for the rest of your post, I could debate you for hours on abortion & gay marriage (among other topics), but will save that for the P&OC board. 
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For some. But why make it the responsibility of schools and teachers, they are under enough pressure and lack of funding to teach the basics. That is why you are the childs parent. Parenting is not just being the mother or father it is patience, communication, teaching them to be good people, teaching them right and wring, being an avid supporter of them. Many times we can see that children manipulate their parents' behaviors. If they smoke it must be ok, if they drink it must be ok, if mom had sex when she was 15 and had me at 16, it must be ok. Parents need to teach their kids the consequences of their actions not teachers.
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09-19-2008, 06:14 PM
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As everyone knows, the media is full of conflicting reports about all the candidates in a Presidential election campaign. I'd like to know what Alaskans think about this...
There was an editorial in a particular New York City newspaper mentioning that one of the first things Sarah Palin did upon taking office as Governor of Alaska was to start replacing competent administrators with old friends. I should think a policy like this would have some effect on the choices made by voters around the country. How accurate is this portrayal?
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