12-28-2008, 06:10 PM
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So sorry to hear you were sick, I know I haven't seen you here for a while..
I can't do Murray McMurray again, with the minimums...that's what drove me crazy last time, and I put them on the deck when first got them in a cow tank, covered with wood and light in it...they bonded to the deck....bad thing...So I need 5 or 6, and so right, no roosters, just hens, rooster would probably be at all night up here in the summer!!!
Lordy, yes! I got one order from them. I was looking at how cheap they were, so I got 75 straight run, and they showed up before I got the chicken house finished - and they sent extras just in case some of them didn't make it. All the little buggers survived, about 85 of them. We kept them in a huge cardboard box next to the oil stove until they started flying out, then had to cover it with some herring web. You wouldn't believe how much dust they can raise in a house! Then, once I got the chicken house done and spent a small fortune on Sear's Best chick-tight fence, it turned out to be not chick-tight in the least, so it was another trip to the dump for used web, and I lined the whole fence with more herring web. Then they started flying over that - don't ever let anyone tell you chickens can't fly, mine certainly did, and the second and third generations roosted in the tops of spruce trees - and I had to cover the whole pen with still more web. It just wasn't worth the effort. I won't get more than half a dozen at most this time, and I expect they'll eat whatever doesn't go in the compost pile or the dogs won't eat. Even here, where the days and nights are a lot more even than in AK, I have a neighbor maybe half a mile away who has a couple roosters and I can hear them all day anytime I step outside the door.
12-28-2008, 08:41 PM
Location: Casa Grande
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Lordy, yes! I got one order from them. I was looking at how cheap they were, so I got 75 straight run, and they showed up before I got the chicken house finished - and they sent extras just in case some of them didn't make it. All the little buggers survived, about 85 of them. We kept them in a huge cardboard box next to the oil stove until they started flying out, then had to cover it with some herring web. You wouldn't believe how much dust they can raise in a house! Then, once I got the chicken house done and spent a small fortune on Sear's Best chick-tight fence, it turned out to be not chick-tight in the least, so it was another trip to the dump for used web, and I lined the whole fence with more herring web. Then they started flying over that - don't ever let anyone tell you chickens can't fly, mine certainly did, and the second and third generations roosted in the tops of spruce trees - and I had to cover the whole pen with still more web. It just wasn't worth the effort. I won't get more than half a dozen at most this time, and I expect they'll eat whatever doesn't go in the compost pile or the dogs won't eat. Even here, where the days and nights are a lot more even than in AK, I have a neighbor maybe half a mile away who has a couple roosters and I can hear them all day anytime I step outside the door.
ROFL...85...the good idea of chickens can turn into a nightmare in a heartbeat!!! The underside of our cabin was open so they went underneath and were picking at the styrofoam for the floor...nothing like waking up to them and the foam...range fed chickens right...they will eat anything!!!!
12-28-2008, 09:17 PM
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We've had recessions at the beginning of the 70's, 80's, 90's, and almost 2000. We were starting to dip when 9/11 happened, and I think we muscled our way through it, kind of like we're trying to now. Our current unemployment rate is about even with the lowest of the last 3 1/2 recessions. The worst one being over 10%, and we're in the high 6's now. Every ten years we get cocky with our economy, and screw it up for a couple years, this is just the same old cycle that was slightly postponed from the beginning of 2000. Remember the Y2K nonsense? It's just our fears getting the best of us again. Even still, no harm in stocking up on canned soup and ammo, nothing wrong with a little backup plan.
I was around 17 in the early 90's when we went through a recession, and a pretty serious drought as well. I just kept going to work, and riding my dirt bike every chance I had. I was totally oblivious, ignorance is bliss!
One thing that hurts me, is the drastically reduced "help wanted" section in the local paper. It's gone from 4+ full pages, to 1/4 of a single page. I really don't like seeing good folks struggle to find work.
I also noticed a Proenneke reference in there, the man was a machine, and an inspiration!
12-28-2008, 11:15 PM
Location: NC, USA
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What calibers did you focus on?
I would say that OB is of the same stripe. It dosent look well. It hired the same crew from the W Cartel.
.270, 7mmMag,.41 mag, .22lr, .22mag, 12ga #4buck & #8shot & #4shot , 20ga,#1buck & #6shot
12-28-2008, 11:31 PM
Location: Casa Grande
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We've had recessions at the beginning of the 70's, 80's, 90's, and almost 2000. We were starting to dip when 9/11 happened, and I think we muscled our way through it, kind of like we're trying to now. Our current unemployment rate is about even with the lowest of the last 3 1/2 recessions. The worst one being over 10%, and we're in the high 6's now. Every ten years we get cocky with our economy, and screw it up for a couple years, this is just the same old cycle that was slightly postponed from the beginning of 2000. Remember the Y2K nonsense? It's just our fears getting the best of us again. Even still, no harm in stocking up on canned soup and ammo, nothing wrong with a little backup plan.
I was around 17 in the early 90's when we went through a recession, and a pretty serious drought as well. I just kept going to work, and riding my dirt bike every chance I had. I was totally oblivious, ignorance is bliss!
One thing that hurts me, is the drastically reduced "help wanted" section in the local paper. It's gone from 4+ full pages, to 1/4 of a single page. I really don't like seeing good folks struggle to find work.
I also noticed a Proenneke reference in there, the man was a machine, and an inspiration!
The Proenneke reference...you are so right, that man dealt with what was given and did his own....inspiration yes, but so far out of reality for most....
12-29-2008, 12:07 PM
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.270, 7mmMag,.41 mag, .22lr, .22mag, 12ga #4buck & #8shot & #4shot , 20ga,#1buck & #6shot
Hmm... mine's more like .22lr, .223, .308, .45, 5.7x28mm, 12ga & .50bmg
You have presses too, right Dusty?
12-30-2008, 04:16 PM
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Hmm... mine's more like .22lr, .223, .308, .45, 5.7x28mm, 12ga & .50bmg
You have presses too, right Dusty?
.50 BMG--- you belong in AK proper B.O. .Wow , full of poopoo or a ?
I guess the old saying--- store what you eat is aplicable.
What about .357 .44 , .09 ,06 , . ?
12-30-2008, 04:31 PM
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{{hugs Barkley}} so many of us in the same boat! It helps to have different callings to fall back on/ switch over to. We know where our soul needs to be, but getting there is the hurdle. Shame we couldn't have been born where we long to be. Myself, I never could figure out how people could live in a huge city, all that cement!
The Hurdle; Isnt that the truth? Theres so much still! ?
I tell ya this money/income trip is resulting into a zero sum game for TRUTHERS.
We've made over a million $'s in our lives (wages) and whats the result? Peace? Home? God? A Place?
So whats the hurdle we all ask about? my Alaskan friends?
Just a little;
YouTube - Don Henley - The heart of the matter
12-30-2008, 04:59 PM
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.50 BMG--- you belong in AK proper B.O. .Wow , full of poopoo or a ?
I guess the old saying--- store what you eat is applicable.
What about .357 .44 , .09 ,06 , . ?
Well I only collect calibers that I can use. Right now though I'm busy collecting armorer kits for the various implements.
12-30-2008, 05:19 PM
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Well I only collect calibers that I can use. Right now though I'm busy collecting armorer kits for the various implements.
Whats your defintion of an 'armor kit' BA OWL my Indian friend? fotos ie/ ????
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