03-04-2009, 11:55 AM
Location: Nome
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Another Treadwell waiting to happen. And they wonder why Anchorage is having poblems with bears
03-04-2009, 11:57 AM
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This guy doesn't live in Anchorage, sorry.
03-04-2009, 11:58 AM
Location: Interior alaska
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Quote:
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Metlakatla
Shortly after that story ran, the Alaska F & G charged him with feeding wild animals. He was fighting it in court, but never heard much more after the intial story.
Was an impressive story until you got to see the whole deal where he had his grandkids standing next to the bears and such....
Kind of an older, Tim Treadwell waiting for something to happen and then be amazed that it did....
03-04-2009, 12:13 PM
Location: SW Missouri
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from the report...
They had just left their mother's house," Jacob Stalker said. "They were just out the door. They were 50 feet out the door when Rhoda saw the polar bear. And she screamed. And then Carl made the polar bear chase him so the bear wouldn't go after Rhoda. And then he fought the bear with his pocket knife. It was just a little 8-inch pocket knife. He had no choice. It was either him or both of them."
Ok, is it just me, or did anyone else think that MAYBE if she had not screamed and drawn attention to herself, that maybe the bear might not have even seen her? Also too, maybe if they had just slowly backed away, back into the house, the bear might not have attacked at all?
I realize that Polar Bears are fierce preditors but if they are after seals, perhaps they wouldn't have been even remotely interested in killing Carl and Rhoda if they had not been screamed at and had people running around in front of them. I would say that the two humans involved exibited probably the WORST POSSIBLE behavior when confronting a bear.
20yrsinBranson
03-04-2009, 12:23 PM
Location: "The Sunshine State"
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You people that choose to live in Alaska or any other open country state are invaiding the territory of wild animals....they were there first! Man is an animals worst enemy...how true! I do not think some of you people realize that! So for man who says there is an overpopulation of any wild animal in such a territory, not true. It is the overpopulation of man taking it over!
03-04-2009, 12:24 PM
Location: "The Sunshine State"
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Originally Posted by
aurorawatcher
Another Treadwell waiting to happen. And they wonder why Anchorage is having poblems with bears
It is the population of people moving in taking over the bears territory. How can you people not see this? Plus they smell the food in your garbage cans that attract them!
There is no bear problem, it is the people who make it one!
03-04-2009, 12:29 PM
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Blondie621
You people that choose to live in Alaska or any other open country state are invaiding the territory of wild animals....they were there first! Man is an animals worst enemy...how true! I do not think some of you people realize that! So for man who says there is an overpopulation of any wild animal in such a territory, not true. It is the overpopulation of man taking it over!
Come on Blondie..."you people"???
I don't know where you live, but I'm sure that wild animals were there first as well.
Are there any wild animals at all where you live or have "you people" there starved them all out?
03-04-2009, 12:34 PM
Location: on top of a mountain
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Quote:
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Blondie621
It is the population of people moving in taking over the bears territory. How can you people not see this? Plus they smell the food in your garbage cans that attract them!
There is no bear problem, it is the people who make it one!
yo...scottie...beam the black haired blondie621 and all her kind up!!! the animals need more space and they are taking up
...thanks
03-04-2009, 12:36 PM
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Ok, is it just me, or did anyone else think that MAYBE if she had not screamed and drawn attention to herself,
Not sure; I've never lived in polar bear country. With the grizzlies and blackies, screaming would have been okay because noise probably would have frightened them off. Polar bears might react to noise differently though.
03-04-2009, 12:42 PM
Location: The Woods
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Blondie621
You people that choose to live in Alaska or any other open country state are invaiding the territory of wild animals....they were there first! Man is an animals worst enemy...how true! I do not think some of you people realize that! So for man who says there is an overpopulation of any wild animal in such a territory, not true. It is the overpopulation of man taking it over!
The Natives have co-existed for thousands of years in Alaska with the bears...people are part of nature. Thus far the people of Alaska have done a far better job managing wildlife than many other states. Where do you live, by the way?
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