Tell me about Wasilla? (Anchorage, Kenai: home, to buy, to live in)

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson

What has been quoted here is about as current as that sort of statistic is likely to get.
Look, that is just aburd. Glitch might make inferences like that, but no reasonable person does. When you have only one data point it means nothing, and claiming otherwise is aburd.

I didn't make any such inference, you just like to manufacture lies like your other fellow documented liar and well-known Wasilla hater. Unlike you, I post verifiable fact while you post lies and news clippings.

Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson

When you have more than 1/3rd of all State meth stats pointing at the Mat-Su Valley it is absurd to claim there is no significance.

When nobody in this thread has ever once dismissed the significance of meth in the Valley, why are you once again lying by claiming some one has? You obviously have a very tenuous grasp on reality.

[Floyd_Davidson]

Originally Posted by Glitch

I didn't make any such inference, you just like to manufacture lies like your other fellow documented liar and well-known Wasilla hater. Unlike you, I post verifiable fact while you post lies and news clippings.

I cited a document from the State of Alaska Department of Public Safety. It said that in 2007 some 55% of the ABADE actions against meth labs were in the Mat-Su Valley.

Denying that sort of documentation is just as hilarious as you citing a list of properties declared as "llegal drug manufacturing" claiming it represents every meth lab known to law enforcement!

Barkingowl is coming in a close second to you though with this business of saying 1 data point is a significant statistical trend and also questioning Alaska State Trooper statistics for drug arrests (can I prove the trooper's figures are accurate??? :-).

When nobody in this thread has ever once dismissed the significance of meth in the Valley, why are you once again lying by claiming some one has? You obviously have a very tenuous grasp on reality.

You said anyone who claimed it was significant was a liar who hated Wasilla, or whatever. There is no lie to it except yours and there is no hate except yours. It's just a fact that that is the meth capital of Alaska.

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson

I cited a document from the State of Alaska Department of Public Safety. It said that in 2007 some 55% of the ABADE actions against meth labs were in the Mat-Su Valley.

Denying that sort of documentation is just as hilarious as you citing a list of properties declared as "llegal drug manufacturing" claiming it represents every meth lab known to law enforcement!

The only thing I denied was your deliberate lie that I inferred SE Alaska was the meth capital. Nice try at spinning yet another lie though.

Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson

Barkingowl is coming in a close second to you though with this business of saying 1 data point is a significant statistical trend and also questioning Alaska State Trooper statistics for drug arrests (can I prove the trooper's figures are accurate??? :-).
You said anyone who claimed it was significant was a liar who hated Wasilla, or whatever. There is no lie to it except yours and there is no hate except yours. It's just a fact that that is the meth capital of Alaska.

I never said any such thing, so that is yet another lie. Boy, you just can't help but lie all the time. Have you sought professional help?

[Metlakatla]

My, how the insults start to fly when someone when someone breaths the slightest negative thing about Whitesilla in certain company.

A lot of people in AK refer to it as "the meth capital of Alaska", that was my original point. I don't think that everyone hates it, but I do think it's representative of what some of us who have been around Alaska for a long time are beginning to dislike about what the state is turning into, and don't want our own areas to become like it.

I could say the same about Skagway...perhaps even more so from a SE perspective....but for different reasons; Skagway has no significant meth problem.

[Metlakatla]

Originally Posted by Barkingowl

I agree. Bluegrass & meth seem to be polar opposites.

I think the lure of the festival for the meth crowd isn't the music -- I doubt many of them even listen to it -- but rather that its a three day camp out type of deal. I think they just go up to "party". Kind of sad because I know people who put a lot of work into getting it going. For some reason the Anderson festival doesn't seem to have that problem; perhaps because it's far enough away from Wasilla to not be affected.

[Barkingowl]

So Floyd is the 93 year old dog still alive?

[Floyd_Davidson]

Originally Posted by Glitch

Obviously the news article is in error. Naturaly, you would believe such lies and dismiss what the law actually requires.

Rather clearly the news article (it was written by AP apparently) was not in error at all. They quoted a Wasilla based Alaska State Trooper. Regardless, I did not cite the newspaper article.

Unlike your precious newspaper source, which can report any number they want, Alaska law requires local law enforcement to be accurate.

Yes, exactly. But if you cannot read it makes little difference how accurate they are!

Here are a few odd numbers, once again directly from the State of Alaska report that I cited previously.

Meth related arrest by ABADE:
2005 234
2006 117
2007 144

Meth labs seized by ABADE:
2005 42
2006 18
2007 11

This source:
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/...ocal/ak/ak.pdf
gives statistics for the Federal DEA

Meth lab "incidents":
2003 40
2004 67
2005 37
2006 4
2007 0

Your claim that only 29 meth labs have been found in the past five years is interesting compared to known statistics from Federal and State sources, which though imcomplete (with only 2007 data available from the State) show that from 2004 to 2009 at least 119 meth labs have been discovered.

I won't list them, but I'll also note that you are backpedaling at 90 miles an hour denying that you said all the things you said. Hilarious!

[Barkingowl]

Floyd looking at your statistics it would seem that the number of meth labs being discovered in Wasilla is dropping. Do you think they should get a bailout?

[Floyd_Davidson]

Originally Posted by Barkingowl

Floyd looking at your statistics it would seem that the number of meth labs being discovered in Wasilla is dropping. Do you think they should get a bailout?

The popularity of cooking meth has definitely gone down over the past several years after hitting a high in 2003-2004. That is a statewide characteristic, not restricted to the MatSu. It probably has to do with two very simple factors: increased awareness by the public and increased efforts by law enforcement.

[Grannysroost]

This may be a stupid question, but are there any statistics for other crimes that are drug related. I would think that since Wasilla is so close to Anchorage, that whether there are actual labs being found or not there are going to be other drug-related crimes because of the proximity to Anchorage, and it may be being a more prestigious area or inhabited with people with better toys to steal?