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Old 03-24-2009, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Fairbanks, AK
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I'm confused. Why is it ignorant to be prepared for the unexpected? Seems pretty sensible to me.

 
Old 03-24-2009, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Bliss Township, Michigan
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Originally Posted by summerlane1981 View Post
A rancher may not know when a tornado is going to hit- but he has an emergency plan. A musher may not know when extreme weather is going to hit, so he should have emergency gear for his dogs.
Think about what you posted. Of course a musher has emergency gear and plans, they don't always work, just like the rancher who had a plan and lost some cattle due to a tornado...duh.
 
Old 03-24-2009, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Fairbanks, AK
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It is past time you stop sniffing the proverbial glue. I've been on these ranches when an unexpected tornado has hit. Emergency plan?! Daft, daft. Tell me, if you will, just what the hell emergency plan a rancher is to have in place for a few head of his cattle neatly wrapped in barbed wire fencing or baling wire? What, oh please pray tell, what is his fecking plan for 40 or 50 chickens hopping about - still alive - but without a single feather on their bodies?
Emergency plan. Well...thank you for the giggle.
actually.....


Farm and Ranch: disaster, plan, preparedness, recovery - Texas
 
Old 03-24-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Fairbanks, AK
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Think about what you posted. Of course a musher has emergency gear and plans, they don't always work, just like the rancher who had a plan and lost some cattle due to a tornado...duh.
that's great- but i didn't see anywhere in the article about the musher covering them with emergency blankets or something of that respect. If they do carry these and he did use them, then I agree, sometimes you can't for losing. But I haven't read about anything other than burrowing down in the snow. If you know something i don't then please, educate me.
 
Old 03-24-2009, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Bliss Township, Michigan
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Man, you're about as sharp as a bowling ball.
 
Old 03-24-2009, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Fairbanks, AK
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so you just bash me instead of answering my question? usually that means one doesn't have an answer. I was sincere in asking if you knew something I don't.
 
Old 03-24-2009, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Nome
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Ranchers Emergency Plan


YouTube - A flying cow?
 
Old 03-24-2009, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Bliss Township, Michigan
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The mushers carry all sorts of gear, just in case of this type of thing. If they know it is a long way to the next check point, they carry extra. They know what is needed for survival, for them selves and the dogs. Without these dogs, the musher dies, so, why wouldn't the musher keep the dogs safe?
 
Old 03-24-2009, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Bliss Township, Michigan
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Ranchers Emergency Plan


YouTube - A flying cow?
 
Old 03-24-2009, 09:01 PM
 
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First do you know what types of "money" is made in this sport? These guys aren't professional baseball, basketball, football, <insert arrogant overpaid professional sport here> players. The cost of running a kennel for the year is estimated at $50,000 and the entry fee plus food, equipment, etc for the Iditarod is around $10,000. The winner gets under $70k in prize money and a new truck...that's the winner. So you can figure that after taxes the winner will do just better than break even. That being the case it is probably a pretty safe bet that everyone else is eating the difference. (everyone that finishes gets at least a whopping $1,049 in prize money)

Let's talk about sponsorships. A lot of the bigger name racers have sponsorships. These sponsors help pay some of the bills for the kennel and equipment for the most part. (trucks to haul the dogs and equipment, sleds, dog food, vet care, medical benefits, etc) Not sure how many get these perks, but I doubt that it's the majority. Sponsors will likely give money to teams that will get press and therefore provide positive PR for their products. Also, a lot of the sponsors are small local companies that are friends and who will benefit the most from name recognition. Let's face it not a lot of places around the world watching the Iditarod, say compared to the superbowl.

I've been lucky enough to visit the homes of two of the larger musher's in the sport and they are normal single family houses. (aside from the noise!) They are very nice, but let's just say I'd be surprised to see them on MTV's Cribs anytime in the near future. I belive a lot of the spouses of the racers have regular jobs so the family can live comfortably. From what I could tell a lot of the lessor known racers held down 9-5 jobs themselves in the off seasons as well. Martin Buser's wife is a school teacher, and he is one of the more well know racers who has won the Iditarod on multiple occasions. I believe the kennels also try to make profit to subsidize their costs too. Breeding dogs, giving tours during tourist season, etc. Most of these guys and gals have families they are supporting so imagine doing that with no 9-5 income and having an extra 50-100k in expenses. How much would you need to win to just break even?

Don't fool yourself into thinking that the musher's are in it for the money, if anything they'd be smart to get out because of the money. Most of us have hobbies/passions that we dump large amounts of money into, little of which we ever recover. These musher's spend much of their lives taking part in this sport because they love it, not to get rich.

Oh and to say the animal always pays with their lives is just a ignorant statement. You need to learn not to use absolutes like "always" and "never" when you debate a topic, you'll ALWAYS leave yourself open to attack. (ironic I know) There were hundreds of dogs in this years race alone and there were six deaths. That is a shame I'll give you that, but there are still hundreds of dogs sleeping in their cozy kennels this evening having doggie dreams about the adventure they just completed.
You are obviously meant to live in Alaska!
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