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04-11-2009, 06:01 PM
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Controlling Buttercup
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Originally Posted by blueflames50
Please check your credit card charges....yesterday for the first time the credit card company called my early a.m. to ask about a questionable charge. The charge was from WCbilling.com....you can google it...the charge was for $4.99 and apparently it was from clicking on a site and you do not know that by doing so you are signing up for membership. The only site I have clicked on is in this forum to the one referred to in previous posts. No one else uses my computer.
Not sure it was this site but the tip off to the credit card company was that they had the wrong expiration date for the card. I cancelled the card with no problem. Do check!!!
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Wow, thanks, never thought of that. That is just bizarre...but how would they get your credit card number in the first place? I'm on a new laptop with no information like that on it at all, not even my paypal account.
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04-11-2009, 06:06 PM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fairbanks
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It sounds like you have a trojan or other malware in your computer which is sharing info on your computer to others
Last edited by aurorawatcher; 04-11-2009 at 06:16 PM..
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04-11-2009, 06:10 PM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Interior alaska
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Originally Posted by Metlakatla
I was wondering what happened to that guy. So it was a personal vendetta after all.
Tracing an IP address isn't difficult if you know how, but you have to have the headers in order to do so properly. For instance, the entire town of Skagway who uses Alaska Power and Telephone internet has the same IP address.
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Yeppers!
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04-11-2009, 06:31 PM
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Dancing on the edge of survival!!
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: east coast/moving to AK!
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Originally Posted by aurorawatcher
It sounds like you have a trojan or other malware in your computer which is sharing info on your computer to others
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nope...computer geek here!! I run more security than the average IT people! I ran every test possible and computer is clean....if they had taken the info they would have had the correct expiration date...went through it with the fraud dept and it is not off my computer.....they pay people to track info down on you after you click on the site thru your IP address!!! Professional ripoff!!
also I have two laptops....the one I use everyday does not have any PayPal or credit card info strictly for stuff like this. It was off this one that the IP was pulled! Anyone can get your card number...it is the expiration date and authorization number on the back they can't get.
google the WCbilling.com and you will see how they do it!!
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04-11-2009, 06:34 PM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Vt but soon to be AK
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Originally Posted by Metlakatla
My picture's up at Mudflats.
It's really a personal decision how much someone shares in an open forum; I have no problem with most people here knowing stuff, but who really knows whose lurking, et al. And there are people who spend hours trying to glean personal information about people; for what reason I am not sure. I have family in business as well as in politics (liberal politics at that  )
so I prefer to be a bit anon. on sites that get the large amount of traffic that this one does.
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Most of those would be government spies.
I suppose someone could track any of us down but I'd prefer to make them have to work hard at it if they have no business knowing...
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04-11-2009, 07:02 PM
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Dancing on the edge of survival!!
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: east coast/moving to AK!
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Originally Posted by blueflames50
nope...computer geek here!! I run more security than the average IT people! I ran every test possible and computer is clean....if they had taken the info they would have had the correct expiration date...went through it with the fraud dept and it is not off my computer.....they pay people to track info down on you after you click on the site thru your IP address!!! Professional ripoff!!
also I have two laptops....the one I use everyday does not have any PayPal or credit card info strictly for stuff like this. It was off this one that the IP was pulled! Anyone can get your card number...it is the expiration date and authorization number on the back they can't get.
google the WCbilling.com and you will see how they do it!!
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Oh by the way....a good security and simple one is to use only one card with a low limit for online. 
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04-11-2009, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Vt but soon to be AK
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Originally Posted by blueflames50
Oh by the way....a good security and simple one is to use only one card with a low limit for online. 
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Or do as I do, have no credit or debit cards.
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04-11-2009, 07:30 PM
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Dancing on the edge of survival!!
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: east coast/moving to AK!
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader
Or do as I do, have no credit or debit cards.
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well...unfortunately you will find that to rent a car, buy plane tickets or many other things you gotta have one....believe me I would love to not have to have one at all but....it does make so many things easier....in many place now you can not use cash....I did business in NY city and no cash allowed, account charge which required a credit card for a hold (not charged to unless you didn't pay your bill)...saved us having to carry cash when traveling overseas... 
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04-11-2009, 08:59 PM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Vt but soon to be AK
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Originally Posted by blueflames50
well...unfortunately you will find that to rent a car, buy plane tickets or many other things you gotta have one....believe me I would love to not have to have one at all but....it does make so many things easier....in many place now you can not use cash....I did business in NY city and no cash allowed, account charge which required a credit card for a hold (not charged to unless you didn't pay your bill)...saved us having to carry cash when traveling overseas... 
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Ahh yes, the emerging cashless society in the big cities...no thanks to that stuff, I value my privacy. Cash for me. Someone doesn't want cash, their loss, not mine. I don't do credit, my grandparents learned that lesson in the Depression, many more are learning it now.
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04-11-2009, 09:26 PM
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I think I am better now :)
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Arizona & Alaska
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Originally Posted by blueflames50
nope...computer geek here!! I run more security than the average IT people! I ran every test possible and computer is clean....if they had taken the info they would have had the correct expiration date...went through it with the fraud dept and it is not off my computer.....they pay people to track info down on you after you click on the site thru your IP address!!! Professional ripoff!!
also I have two laptops....the one I use everyday does not have any PayPal or credit card info strictly for stuff like this. It was off this one that the IP was pulled! Anyone can get your card number...it is the expiration date and authorization number on the back they can't get.
google the WCbilling.com and you will see how they do it!!
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If IP address, I guess does not matter how many computers you have hooked to it...router...all comes up the same so pick the one you are on?
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