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Your ability to not grasp what you are talking about is legendary, you clearly are a "legend in your own mind".
If you had facts to support your position, this would have been the place to use them. Instead you have gratuitous personal insults and your own imaginary fantasy about what must have happened (it must have been that way because you cannot imagine anything else).
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You make grand statements that there are no Russian left after Alaska was bought by the US. When they left, that was it...
Not exactly "grand statements", just facts. You refuse to read the available history books, but Bancroft's "History of Alaska" goes into signifiant detail about that, citing numbers and examining the causes.
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Then when you are called to task on it, you then claim that the "Half Russian/local" kids remaining are not Russian because they were called something else by the Russians is hogwash. You clearly have no clue to the grand goofy statements that you make... Then you go to great extremes to try to put on a different face after you realized you stepped in it....
Again, your imagination as to what happened is pitted against the reality that has been recorded by credible historians, and you describe it as "great extremes".
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There is a lot of "half American" kids left in Viet Nam, just because they don't speak English, would you claim they aren't part of the American Bloodline too....
Now you are throwing out another strawman that you have created.
I have said the Creoles did not leave Russian heritage. You have said they left Russian bloodlines, and equate the two. Now you say I've said they left no bloodlines, a statement that I have never made. The point is that the discussion was about Russian Heritage, not Russian Bloodlines (DNA). There may indeed be a great deal of "Russian Bloodlines" that were left behind in Alaska, but there was very little Russian Heritage left from the Russian American period.
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Anyone that grew up in Alaska and was taught Alaskan History in school, knows that there were Russians still here long after the Politicos left, as were their bloodlines, even though they don't speak Russian.
There were fewer than 15 Russians who stayed in Alaska after the US took possession.
You really should have taken the time to read the article you cited. It says nothing about Russian heritage in Alaska today, nor about how many Russians remained in Alaska after the 1867 transfer to the US.
The silly speculations listed above as to how the existing Russian villages in Alaska came to exist are another example of assumptions and fantasies about how it must have been, but have no basis in fact. The facts are that those villages were all founded by Old Believers who arrived in Alaska beginning in the late 1960's (and who came to Alaska from Oregon via China, not from Russia).
As I've said, and have supported by citing Bancroft and Naske, there is relatively little Russian heritage in Alaska left over from the Russian American period prior to 1867. It isn't totally zilch, but very nearly so. Put it this way, there was nearly as much heritage left here in Barrow (maybe more) from the English than perhaps what was left in Alaska by the Russians pre-1867. I'll bet that very few people have ever heard that the English had any heritage here other than the name "Barrow" left behind in the search for the lost Franklin expedition!
That is not boring! Pretty sad how the locals were treated.
Keep in mind the disctinctions between both the norm for that time period, and how others acted at the same time. The Russians did not treat anyone nicely, including Russians! They had very little value for human life, which was the norm for everyone at that time. But it was a class distinction (royalty vs. the lower classes) and not one of race or even, to a lesser degree, nationality. Lower class Russian citizens in Alaska were treated in a very similar manner to the way Alaska Native villagers were treated. And upper class Natives (Tlingit chiefs for example) were treated similarly to upper class Russians.
That led to some odd results, such as when Lt. Zagoskin explored western Alaska with the intent of establishing trading locations. On the Kuskokwim River the only location they managed to develop was at Kolmakov. They would have liked several others, but were unable to establish property rights because they could not determine who had the right within the Native society to sell land to them! A Russian Naval officer, such as Zagoskin, simply would not negotiate with anyone he considered beneath his station. He saw no one in the Yup'ik community that clearly was in charge... because they had no standing armies, nobody was clearly giving orders, and women seemed to be giving instructions to males! (And, unable to buy land... they left!)
The Americans on the other hand implemented race based discrimination immediately in 1867. They refused to recongnize any sovereignty, ownership or value for non-Whites in Alaska.
One of the clear examples of how Americans differed from the Russians was in the mining laws passed in the 1872 and then applied to Alaska in the 1890's when gold was discovered. The law said that any immigrant or citizen could file and then patent a claim if minerals were found on public land. First, the land in Alaska was not actually "public land", but the US (as opposed to the Russians) acted as if it was. Second, since Alaska Native people were not US citizens and were not immigrants, they were not allowed to file for a claim and could not protect any mining operation they owned. (Indeed, any White who found an Alaska Native working a mining operation could legally pound a stake in the ground and then literally shoot to death the Native for claim jumping.)
There is a distinct difference between the individual acting on their own, perhaps knowing they are breaking a law but will not be caught, and a systemic implementation of laws to support racial discrimination. There are of course many examples of Russian individuals engaged in reprehensible actions, but only few of the Russian government supporting those actions. The United States implemented and required race based discrimination in Alaska, by law, for everyone.
If you had facts to support your position, this would have been the place to use them. Instead you have gratuitous personal insults and your own imaginary fantasy about what must have happened (it must have been that way because you cannot imagine anything else).Not exactly "grand statements", just facts. You refuse to read the available history books, but Bancroft's "History of Alaska" goes into signifiant detail about that, citing numbers and examining the causes.
Again, your imagination as to what happened is pitted against the reality that has been recorded by credible historians, and you describe it as "great extremes".
Now you are throwing out another strawman that you have created.
I have said the Creoles did not leave Russian heritage. You have said they left Russian bloodlines, and equate the two. Now you say I've said they left no bloodlines, a statement that I have never made. The point is that the discussion was about Russian Heritage, not Russian Bloodlines (DNA). There may indeed be a great deal of "Russian Bloodlines" that were left behind in Alaska, but there was very little Russian Heritage left from the Russian American period.
There were fewer than 15 Russians who stayed in Alaska after the US took possession.
The more you try to pull your foot out of your mouth, the weirder you get.
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