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Old 05-27-2009, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Bliss Township, Michigan
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Respect For...is not judgment, it's giving your respect. Loosen up Floyd.

I just sold, yes, just, to the minute, as this thread moves, our truck to a native person from one of the villages on the Yukon, wish I could remember the name. Anyway, he looked me straight in the eye, as did I, while we were talking. He looked me in the eye as we met also. It's called giving your respect to the other person.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:15 PM
 
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OK. All Floyd was trying to say was that before white culture had much of an impact on the Native villages, some of them were different that way. He isn't talking about here and now; he even specified that in his post.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Naptowne, Alaska
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Well let's keep it to the present time...since thats where most of us are.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Bliss Township, Michigan
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OK. All Floyd was trying to say was that before white culture had much of an impact on the Native villages, some of them were different that way. He isn't talking about here and now; he even specified that in his post.
Ok, I just went back and reread Floyd's first post. In the past that may have may have been true, but this is now, and times have changed. It may have been the whites that brought the eye contact in, but as far as I have ever heard, most native have always had eye contact as a form of respect.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:33 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Now that health problems are in the rear view mirror its looking like we will be moving to the Kenai Peninsula this summer. I have seen lotsa people say dont bring Cali. with you. You dont need to worry about the politics as thats a major reason we are leaving but what other attitudes are you refering to?
I know with my mother born and raised in Cali, when she moved to Utah the hardest thing for her was every one looking her in the eye! In Cali. thats subconscious aggresive behavior!
Thoughts?
omg that is why everybody has been getting angry with me since 1977.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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I find this whole argument about eye contact rather amusing and bemusing. I have Aspergers, a form of autism, and direct eye contact really freaks me out. I understand that many people expect at least some sort of eye contact during a conversation, so I make an effort (yes, it really is an effort) to hae full eye contact at least once while we're talking. But most of the time, I'm looking in their general direction, not directly at them. I try not to let my eyes wander too much, so they know I'm paying attention because I am looking at them (their mouth or ear maybe).

I've had the opportunity to interact with many people from many different cultures and have noticed that eye contact means very different things in all of them. Even in Caucasian/European-descent cultures you find variations - in some direct sustained eye contact is a show of respect, in others direct sustained eye contact is a show of aggression, in some my eye contact problem makes people think I'm lying, others don't even notice. It's terribly confusing for someone who already has problems understanding social rules... so I gave up and just do my thing so that I can actually, respectfully concentrate on what the person is saying, not waste my energy worrying about whether I'm making the "right" amount of eye contact.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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But what if you can't tell which eye to look into? One can have eyes like this... (.) ( .) or something like that. Or even ( .) (. ) or on occasions (. ) ( .) crab eyed.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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ROFL Warpt... I almost spit my coffee all over my keyboard!! I know what you mean though, some people have one eye looking at you and the other is looking for you... and you know that you're just going to make eye contact with their bad eye, not the good one! o_O
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Bliss Township, Michigan
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Thanks for the chuckle Warpt!
You always seem to have the right timing.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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Well let's keep it to the present time...since thats where most of us are.
Visit western Alaska and learn something about the present time, and do NOT assume that your culture is the "correct" one.
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