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Old 07-04-2009, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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After bashing Palin for the last bunch of months since the election in an attempt to marginalize her, she has taken off the gloves.

As the Governor, she is a prime target for the loony left and they know there wasn't much she could do about it. They filed some 14 odd ethics complaints that were all baseless and thrown out at a great cost to both Palin and the State of Alaska (that is all of those that live here).

By leaving the Governor's office, she can begin to fight back without the hindrances of being attached to political office as most of her detractors aren't either.

She can now raise funds without the stings of the regulations for those in office, and she can say what is on her mind... And I would bet donuts to dollars that she is going to be one hot ticket on the Talk circit!

During the Campaign, it was her against Obama... which was kind of neat since the left can't tell the difference between her drawing power and Biden's... She drew ten's of thousands at the rallies and he drew hundreds, not bad for the second place seat.

Had the "Loony Left" just let her come back to Alaska and kept their mouths shut, she would have faded into the background, but because she is their "Waterloo", they couldn't keep quiet and now she can do what she wants and there isn't much to stop her.

She can now attend the national events and give speeches without being accused of not doing her job, which she did anyway, even on the road, just like Obama does... except he spends a lot more time on the road selling out America which isn't quite the same thing...

Payback is such a great thing!!!

 
Old 07-04-2009, 11:39 PM
 
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Why do you insult people who adhere to a different philosophy than you? Without the tension between the left and right, our country would have collapsed generations ago. In fact, it never would have been created. When one goes overboard with too much power (as liberals did in the 70s and conservatives did in the 2000s), the other balances things out and keeps the ship moving.

Why do you not post this in the "politics and controversies" section, where extensive discussion on this subject has already happened?

I think the backlash against Palin from across the political spectrum has more to do with her demonstrated lack of capacity for the international stage than any conspiracy of what you label the "Loony Left".
 
Old 07-04-2009, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Originally Posted by Bluefly View Post
Why do you insult people who adhere to a different philosophy than you?

Why do you not post this in the "politics and controversies" section, where extensive discussion on this subject has already happened?

I think the backlash against Palin from across the political spectrum has more to do with her demonstrated lack of capacity for the international stage than any conspiracy of what you label the "Loony Left".
You are a prime example of what the thread was about....

You just don't get it...

Keep up the good work

Oh, and I posted it in the Alaska section because that is where all the "Loony Lefts" from all over come to bash Palin and they will get to see what they have created!
 
Old 07-04-2009, 11:51 PM
 
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You are a prime example of what the thread was about....

You just don't get it...

Keep up the good work
No, I get it. It's not hard. Please answer my questions instead of silly ad hominem attacks.

I'm trying to rise above a silly partisan bickering match. I'm not a liberal and I'm not a conservative.

I was just saying that the attacks against her are not some conspiracy of her political opposition. She walked onto the international stage and was not ready. Everybody in the McCain camp saw it. They kept her under wraps as long as they could, using her as an image, and spoke out the moment they were free to do so.

The words from her own mouth - unprovoked and unedited, despite cries of media bias - have time and again revealed to anyone willing to listen that she simply lacks the intelligence, backbone, and grit to thrive in international politics.

She can't handle the heat, so she's getting out of the kitchen. It's a smart move and it may pay off for her if enough time passes and she educates herself more on international policy. But, as it is, she doesn't stand a chance outside of her relatively small social conservative, mostly rural white base. They may pack an auditorium, but they can't pack a ballot box.

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Old 07-05-2009, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Still in the same spot...
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Another thread asks if Sarah's "throwing in the towel." If she is, then she's exchanging the towel for some mighty heavy political ammunition. I look forward to the coming days and weeks when the details of it become more clear. This is on Sarah's timing, not Katie Couric's or Keith Olbermann's or Chris Matthews'.

She is the anti-Obama. North Korea with the test firing of its missiles, as well as Iran, Venezuela, Hamas and Hezbollah see Obama as a spineless little man with a huge anti-America inferiority complex. His approval ratings are tumbling. Unemployment is rising quickly. Obama's "stimulus" packages and wild government spending are having zero effect other than to pile on a Mount Everest of federal debt on Generation Y and succeeding generations. The American people are waking up in a hurry. The left-wingers are scared sh**less and are trying frantically, Saul Alinsky-style to make it look like Palin is washed up. They're not fooling anyone. Those who have filed ethics charges against her are a perfect zero for 15, for heaven's sake. Her passing the gubernatorial torch to Sean Parnell is a clarion sign she's taking her marketing of less government, energy independence, and respect for innocent human life to a new level that will enable her and those who share her worldview to thoroughly repudiate and reject that of Obama, Alinsky, and the other blame-America-first socialist radicals.

By all means continue with your wild anti-Palin screeds, folks; but like I said, you're not fooling anyone. You have nothing positive to contribute, and can only try to tear down and destroy just as has already been done in 1917, in 1933 and in 1959 in key parts of the world. That's pretty pathetic.
 
Old 07-05-2009, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Casa Grande, AZ
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Why do you insult people who adhere to a different philosophy than you? Without the tension between the left and right, our country would have collapsed generations ago. In fact, it never would have been created. When one goes overboard with too much power (as liberals did in the 70s and conservatives did in the 2000s), the other balances things out and keeps the ship moving.

Why do you not post this in the "politics and controversies" section, where extensive discussion on this subject has already happened?

I think the backlash against Palin from across the political spectrum has more to do with her demonstrated lack of capacity for the international stage than any conspiracy of what you label the "Loony Left".
Because everything else aside, she has been our gov, and we have endured this 'phenomena' with her for almost a year now... Now we don't have to do this on a state level anymore...she has dumped us twice and I don't think Alaskans allow three strikes...

There are a lot of loonies in this picture, and I think she is one of them, but like said above we deal with it...or have had to...

These 'little' ethics things, she brought on herself..., yes it costs us money, but she never thought about the state she loved before she acted or opened her mouth...nor has she given a rip how Alaska looked to the rest of the world when she did acted innocently or opened her mouth.

She has proven she has no moral scruples no matter what comes from her Bible-bangin' family values mouth..., she loves Alaska, yeah right as long as Alaska is in her top 10 at the moment...Now saying that her camera-seeking, me-Sarah personna does not effect Alaska in the long run is a mistruth...she has taken advantage of the residents and voters of this state, and as I said, she has shown her true colors now twice...if a better opportunity comes up, she goes for it...you betcha, doncha know...
 
Old 07-05-2009, 12:07 AM
 
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Another thread asks if Sarah's "throwing in the towel." If she is, then she's exchanging the towel for some mighty heavy political ammunition. I look forward to the coming days and weeks when the details of it become more clear. This is on Sarah's timing, not Katie Couric's or Keith Olbermann's or Chris Matthews'.

She is the anti-Obama. North Korea with the test firing of its missiles, as well as Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah see Obama as a spineless little man with a huge anti-America inferiority complex. His approval ratings are tumbling. Unemployment is rising quickly. Obama's "stimulus" packages and wild government spending are having zero effect other than to pile on a Mount Everest of federal debt on Generation Y and succeeding generations. The American people are waking up in a hurry. The left-wingers are scared sh**less and are trying frantically, Saul Alinsky-style to make it look like Palin is washed up. They're not fooling anyone. Those who have filed ethics charges against her are a perfect zero for 15, for heaven's sake. Her passing the gubernatorial torch to Sean Parnell is a clarion sign she's taking her marketing of less government, energy independence, and respect for innocent human life to a new level that will enable her and those who share her worldview to thoroughly repudiate and reject that of Obama, Alinsky, and the other blame-America-first socialist radicals.

By all means continue with your wild anti-Palin screeds, folks; but like I said, you're not fooling anyone. You have nothing positive to contribute, and can only try to tear down and destroy just as has already been done in 1917 and in 1959 in key parts of the world. That's pretty pathetic.
She's definitely not throwing the towel in. Just repositioning herself. But I don't think concerns about Palin's capacity to lead the free world have anything to do with Obama. She is not a scape-goat for Obama's policies. She is simply not ready for that level of responsibility.

As to your larger point - North Korea was playing these games under Bush as well and Obama's most recently approval rating was 61%. Holding steady.
 
Old 07-05-2009, 12:10 AM
 
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Because everything else aside, she has been our gov, and we have endured this 'phenomena' with her for almost a year now... Now we don't have to do this on a state level anymore...she has dumped us twice and I don't think Alaskans allow three strikes...

There are a lot of loonies in this picture, and I think she is one of them, but like said above we deal with it...or have had to...

These 'little' ethics things, she brought on herself..., yes it costs us money, but she never thought about the state she loved before she acted or opened her mouth...nor has she given a rip how Alaska looked to the rest of the world when she did acted innocently or opened her mouth.

She has proven she has no moral scruples no matter what comes from her Bible-bangin' family values mouth..., she loves Alaska, yeah right as long as Alaska is in her top 10 at the moment...Now saying that her camera-seeking, me-Sarah personna does not effect Alaska in the long run is a mistruth...she has taken advantage of the residents and voters of this state, and as I said, she has shown her true colors now twice...if a better opportunity comes up, she goes for it...you betcha, doncha know...
Were the people of Alaska generally supportive of her before the VP nomination - or did they have a different perception of her since she was so new to the office?
 
Old 07-05-2009, 12:12 AM
 
Location: southern california
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yes quiting her job as governor was to free her from the petty fetters of political leadership so she can carry out her ingenious plan. having engratiated herself forever with GOP by doing so much to help the McCain campaign she will now rocket to stardom.
 
Old 07-05-2009, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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No, I get it. It's not hard. Please answer my questions instead of silly ad hominem attacks.
you have answered your own question, you came here to try to back pedal when the truth of the left's efforts have come back to haunt them.

Palin was set up on certain interviews to come accross as inept, when in fact Obama didn't know how many states there were... The left press passed it off as if he was tired... I don't know of any compitent person that doesn't know how many states there are that wants to be President except for one...
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