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Old 07-14-2009, 05:02 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson View Post
You haven't got a clue what global warming is...

And your "observations" about Alaska are even more hilarious.
LOL Yes I do Floyd, I've read plenty on the subject, and not just newspaper articles and such either but journal articles as well...but a more accurate term is "climate change," global warming is inaccurate.

Historical data can often tell something interesting. You should try studying it, it might tell you something you don't know...

 
Old 07-14-2009, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Naptowne, Alaska
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Your opinions are all good...but how do you really feel?
 
Old 07-14-2009, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson View Post
You haven't got a clue what global warming is...

And your "observations" about Alaska are even more hilarious.

As always, you don't even pay attention to the latest "Catch Phrase", it isn't "Global Warming" now, it is "Climate Change", which in itself shows they really (and you) don't know what is really going on.

It is their (those that are pushing this aggenda) attempt to be seen as the all knowing and wise, even though nature is going to do what it wants.... Like you except for the part where you are still stuck on the old catch phrase.
 
Old 07-14-2009, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Your opinions are all good...but how do you really feel?
Well a lot broker if the "Global Warming" turned "Climate Change" crowd keeps screaming they need more tax money to keep screaming "The sky is falling!"
 
Old 07-15-2009, 12:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by starlite9 View Post
The fact that our boats get started up on the North Slope later each year due to ice remaining and freezing is sooner over the last few years kinda pops your bubble.
Meh. I believe data, do you?



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Go get a cup of coffee and watch the sun rise, that is the real world.
On this point, I agree. Coffee and a beautiful sunrise, hard to beat.
 
Old 07-15-2009, 01:29 AM
 
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Right now our "natural" forest fires are putting more particulates into the air than all the major U.S. cities combined.
Indeed, nature itself does pump out carbon during fire events, normally the natural course is that the forest then rebuilds and regrows, reabsorbing the carbon kicked off in the previous fire.

Here's data on that too:


Before you ask, my god how do you have data from 400,000 years ago. This data comes sampling air bubbles, trapped in ancient ice. You get a big drill, and cores are drilled into the ice. The air trapped in the core is then analyzed. This process is repeated in various locations and data is averaged.

So you can see there are natural cycles, no doubt. However, it is more than just a little curious that tail spike there coincides with the onset of the industrial revolution and the concurrent massive uptick in the consumption of fossil fuels (coal, oil) which pumps carbon out into the air.

The main issue here is that fossil fuel carbon output occurs without that re-growth of something which will at a later time consume the carbon. This is the main difference between a massive forest fire and human carbon output. The forest fire's contribution is transient.

Last edited by akdreamin; 07-15-2009 at 01:46 AM..
 
Old 07-15-2009, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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Originally Posted by Moose Whisperer View Post
Really? All you claim are "millions" and "dozens". Without quantifying it, that could be anything up to $999 million for 2 dozen people, or $41,625,000 each. Sweet!
If I didn't qualify it does that give you license to be silly?

The point remains that they are not taking home a large income. Their personal income is low, and a few millions spread over dozens of projects doesn't make for anything near "sweet".
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Like anything else, a significant portion of research goes towards labor costs. These people aren't up there for free, they are getting paid a salary and most likely living expenses as well. No one said they were millionaires, but they obviously aren't paupers either.
Have you never heard of a "starving student"? In fact most of the researchers are indeed paupers. The few who are not certainly are not better off due to the projects the sponsor here!
 
Old 07-15-2009, 07:22 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader View Post
Because of the kind of games these groups play.
What a well thought out logical answer!
 
Old 07-15-2009, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Over the Rainbow...
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Originally Posted by starlite9 View Post
Well a lot broker if the "Global Warming" turned "Climate Change" crowd keeps screaming they need more tax money to keep screaming "The sky is falling!"
Yes for sure and Al Gore (who BTW invented the Internet) screams the loudest.
 
Old 07-15-2009, 08:08 AM
 
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You people are messing up Sweden's thread.
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