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Old 11-24-2009, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Alaska exports some 500,000 barrels of oil a day, the Feds get a good chunk off of that, I don't recall the numbers, but it is a couple of dollars off each barrel in a tax base. That makes out to about a million dollars a day or better, figure that out over the year and when it was a million barrels a day over the years, it has been even more the Feds have made off of Alaska in the last thirty years or so... Then the other exports over the years have had Alaska paying out the butt for what we get.

We only have about 600,000 people here, we make on the average a bit more than stateside in wages and our Federal taxes reflect that also.

Overall, per person in Alaska verses other states, we probably put more in by a long shot than we take out "per person" than any other state.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:44 PM
 
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Sorry, but we can't just "forget about the military". It's been pointed out to you that the military is a big part of the reason for the so called "negative tax draw". It benefits the entire United States as well as neighboring countries that hide behind our skirts.
So you are saying that Canada hides behind your skirts? So, you are a bigger country by 10X. Why do you think that you have to protect us?

I will tell you why:

1. our oil
2. our gas
3. our agriculture (meat and grain)
4. power
5. lumber
6. pulp
7. paper

And we were promised free trade. Not happening.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:51 PM
 
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Speaking of free trade...anyone interested in pledging their support to the boycott of Canada's commercial seafood industry can do so here:

Protect Seals 2009 | The Humane Society of the United States (http://www.hsus.org/protectseal.html - broken link)

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"I pledge not to buy seafood products produced in Canada—such as snow crabs, cod, scallops, and shrimp—until Canada ends its commercial seal hunt for good."
Perhaps tomorrow I'll get started on Canada's salmon farming industry.

We should all boycott Canadian products until they learn to act responsibly with respect to the world's oceans.

Wild Alaskan salmon is much better than their farmed swill, anyway
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:58 PM
 
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I say the whole nut case of the republicans and democrats sunk the world. They must have been having a huge party for 8 years. AIG, all the banks, and nobody would step up and say "we can't keep lending like this!"

Meanwhile, we are all suffering, worldwide, because of the republicans, and the democrats, nobody would wake up and smell what was going on. so sad
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:03 AM
 
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Speaking of free trade...anyone interested in pledging their support to the boycott of Canada's commercial seafood industry can do so here:

Protect Seals 2009 | The Humane Society of the United States (http://www.hsus.org/protectseal.html - broken link)



Perhaps tomorrow I'll get started on Canada's salmon farming industry.

We should all boycott Canadian products until they learn to act responsibly with respect to the world's oceans.

Wild Alaskan salmon is much better than their farmed swill, anyway
Be careful on how much you look up on Canadian fishing farms. There are some in the district of yourself as well.

you are laughable with our oceans in canada, go away, swig back some of that moonshine, you are getting nasty now.
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Casa Grande, AZ
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I say the whole nut case of the republicans and democrats sunk the world. They must have been having a huge party for 8 years. AIG, all the banks, and nobody would step up and say "we can't keep lending like this!"

Meanwhile, we are all suffering, worldwide, because of the republicans, and the democrats, nobody would wake up and smell what was going on. so sad
So your problems in CA are due to the US? For one thing, you have had nationalized health care forever darn near, and my best friend in Ontario has had serious medical problems after many surgeries and had to wait forever for an appointment with a specialist or to get a new PCP, after countless trips to the ER...This is one of the things the US is looking at providing, and after the horror stories I have heard about nationalized healthcare, there has to be a better solution. When we talk of taxes, let's look at taxes in CA that are used for what...nothing to do with the Democrats and Republicans or anyone else...It is like us complaining about the terrorists CA lets in to move across the border, but right...we don't have border patrol sufficient enough for both right?
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:11 AM
 
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Be careful on how much you look up on Canadian fishing farms. There are some in the district of yourself as well.

you are laughable with our oceans in canada, go away, swig back some of that moonshine, you are getting nasty now.

There are no salmon farms in Southeast Alaska. We come by our seafood honestly and honorably. We're also kicking your ass in the marketplace. I really should thank y'all for making us look so good

Ocean Farmed Salmon | Farm Raised Salmon | Benefits and Information On Salmon (http://www.salmonoftheamericas.com/home/index.html - broken link)

Salmon Farming in British Columbia
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:20 AM
 
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Guide to Boycotting Canadian Seafood | The Humane Society of the United States (http://www.hsus.org/marine_mammals/protect_seals/why_a_boycott_of_canadian_seafood/guide_to_boycotting_canadian_seafood.html - broken link)

Gotta go put this on my Facebook
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:22 AM
 
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I will look at those 2 links you provided Metlakatla, and I will be honest without prejudice.

I've understood that fisheries shut down certain areas within washington and oregon this past year or 2?
Apparently, this has been the only chance that west coast fisheries within british columbia have a chance to catch some fish. I've heard from friends and family it has been a successful summer finally on the fishing end. Who is raping and pilliaging our oceans? Japanese, Norwegians, or the U.S.?
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:27 AM
 
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Farmed and Dangerous - Send Stop Gunner Point Fax (http://farmedanddangerous.org/fax/stop_gunner_point - broken link)


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Stop the expansion of open net-cage salmon farming in BC!

The Strathcona Regional District zoning bylaw for a new Grieg Seafood salmon farm is pending final adoption, but it is up to the provincial and federal governments to protect the future of all juvenile salmon who use this migration channel by denying the company's application.

In an area already full of 30 open net-cage salmon farms, wild salmon can't afford to face another farm spreading disease, parasites and waste. Tell your government to deny this application!

Must be pretty easy to catch fish in pens, eh?

The fish farms in BC are among the most destructive in the world.
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