Alaska F & G moves to regulate. (Lakes: live, sushi)

[Jerseykat]

Originally Posted by Captain Crunch

ya....I'm getting that from your followers also now

Hmmm so would that make the followers Mets minions?

[blueflames50]

thanks for all that info CC.....why can not officials clamp down on this business big time or for that matter shut it down?? seems the officials are turning a blind eye to this. oh and btw...not a follower, prefer to be leader!

[Captain Crunch]

BS politics of course and money, surprise-surprise..

The bottom trawl industry pays all the right people to not allow F&G to correct their greedy destructive practices

Those greedy destructive practices directly impact the salmon & crab industry by creating whats called bycatch...salmon & crab and everything else is caught along with their targeted fishery...all those are then dumped back into the sea, dead

One of the most offensive things that takes place is the amount of salmon they catch, called bycatch...which when it come onboard is dead but they can't keep it...so over the side it goes...preventing it from being harvested either by the subsistence fisherman that depended on it to survive in Alaska or by the commercial salmon fishery

Its a total cluster-*uck due to money, lobbyists, greed and mismanagement....and after all that 90% of the product goes to Japan

To begin with....we outta put a bounty on lobbyists...

http://www.adn.com/2009/03/28/740118...a-fishery.html

Goggle....Bering Sea Bycatch

When ya drag this across the ocean floor, everything its it path is dead..




http://www.lophelia.org/images/jpeg/bottomtrawling.jpg (broken link)

[Moose Whisperer]

IMO, it still boils down to one underlying root cause - there are simply too many hungry mouths to feed on planet earth. My belief is that we passed the carrying capacity of this planet decades ago. Human nature being what it is, none of the major problems facing modern society - pollution, climate change, resource depletion, energy usage, global conflict, etc. - will ever be solved without first getting this root cause under control. In fact, they will only get worse.

[Captain Crunch]

Maurice is correct.....we could start by killing off all the politicians and lobbyists

Here is a view of how the trawl net in hauled...

This is a vessel like the Alaska Ranger that sank...

http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/image_full/norway/photosvideos/the-fishing-boat-santa-cristina (broken link)

[richelles]

Originally Posted by Captain Crunch

BS politics of course and money, surprise-surprise.. Goggle....Bering Sea Bycatch ... When ya drag this across the ocean floor, everything its it path is dead..

These pictures show the destruction that drag netting causes far better than any description you could read. Simply put a healthy marine ecosystem has a plethora of species which are all interdependent and together bring about a situation where each species has a niche and feeds on what isn't being used by some competitor. Dragging scoops up everything that gets caught in the net. Imagine you want to catch a single butterfly and you use the equivalent of a drag net; you would catch every bird, rabbit, deer, moose, wolf, blade of grass, bush and tree that got in the way leaving behind a sterile dirt road on which nothing could make a living. The drag netters have one, or a few types of fish they want to catch, and everything else becomes bycatch, or the better word is garbage to them, and is simply something to waste. It doesn't cost as much to catch everything and have a dud or two throw out what you can't sell. In fact it is inefficient to sort out salmon halibut, cod, or whatever is found in the net other than the species you wanted to catch. If there is a better way to rape an ecosystem you can be sure the draggers would be busting their chops trying to bribe politicians with campaign contributions so they could use that method. In fact any kind of netting fish accomplishes the same waste of what makes up a healthy ecosystem. Fishing for Halibut with a hook and line is inefficient because there is a limit to how many Halibut you can catch that way. But if you catch 10% Halibut on each drag you can't mix them with the other fish you want to catch because your buyer wants only the fish he is interested in buying. So you feed seagulls with the now dead Halibut. By the way confessing my bias Halibut is my favorite fish but you can substitute yours in its place they are also killed. Banning dragging is similar to why fishing with dynamite has been banned. The explosion kills everything and destroys everything that is needed to support the fish you really want. Why not have 100 fisherpeople working than one owner and several duds who fish with a drag net and kill what the other 90 fisherpeople would be able to catch and use?

[blueflames50]

now where the h*ll are the animal activist fighting this one??? ohhhh they'll scream about the fur wearing animals but scaled fishy's are another story.....yes I know about the sea kitty ones but come on....step up to the plate on this one but don't go overboard!

[Captain Crunch]

Greed and corruption rules Alaska natural resources...

[Captain Crunch]

March 23, 2010....

Rule aims to limit accidental salmon catch


MARY PEMBERTON | The Associated Press


ANCHORAGE – A federal agency said Tuesday that a program could be in place by next year limiting the number of king salmon accidentally caught in the huge Bering Sea pollock trawl fishery.

Under the NOAA Fisheries program, if the limit of salmon bycatch is reached, the pollock fishery — the largest by volume in the United States — will have to shut down.

The program also provides incentives to encourage pollock fishermen to avoid king salmon. And it increases observers aboard pollock vessels to make sure every salmon that is accidentally caught is counted.


The pollock fishery accounts for about 95 percent of king salmon accidentally caught in Alaska waters.

BOYCOTT POLLOCK....(used in fish & chips and many other white-fish products)

[blueflames50]

Originally Posted by Captain Crunch

March 23, 2010....

Rule aims to limit accidental salmon catch


MARY PEMBERTON | The Associated Press


ANCHORAGE – A federal agency said Tuesday that a program could be in place by next year limiting the number of king salmon accidentally caught in the huge Bering Sea pollock trawl fishery.

Under the NOAA Fisheries program, if the limit of salmon bycatch is reached, the pollock fishery — the largest by volume in the United States — will have to shut down.

The program also provides incentives to encourage pollock fishermen to avoid king salmon. And it increases observers aboard pollock vessels to make sure every salmon that is accidentally caught is counted.


The pollock fishery accounts for about 95 percent of king salmon accidentally caught in Alaska waters.

BOYCOTT POLLOCK....(used in fish & chips and many other white-fish products)

now like that's really gonna work!! how is this to be effective.....no one is going to be a whistle blower on a ship lest they might go "accidently" overboard, fall into the fish grinder....money will exchange hands so the count will not be accurate....this Mary may as well stick her head in the ocean and start giving the warning to salmon to "stay away from the nets". It is too big a money industry for any ship to be "shut" down.....there are other more effective ways to be found than this.