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Old 03-29-2010, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Exactly, but what I'm saying is there are other States that you can get seclusion without having to pay for a plane ride. Anyone with a plane or boat can find seclusion anywhere, but the average person looking for some peace and quiet can't find it here. The population for AK was 698,473 in 2008. Between Anchorage, and the Mat-Su Valley there were 359,331. Over half of the entire State's population lives around me. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of tourists that come here. So while I agree you can find total isolation here if you have the means to do so, it's still easier in other States to find it.
Yeah, but this is Alaska and wilderness is what the place is about... Having all those people on one or two roads trying to get out of town is a problem.

I cheat, I fly myself....
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Valdez, Alaska
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Seems like you'd be better off hiking for four hours than driving, and that only requires a good pair of boots. No matter what state you're in, you'll find more people at vehicle-accessible camping areas than in the backcountry. It doesn't seem like there's that much point in going somewhere like Alaska if you're going to stick to the roads and frontcountry places. Sure it's pretty and you can sit and look at it, but if you're not going to put forth more effort than that you're not going to get out of it what it really has to offer.
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Old 03-29-2010, 03:02 PM
 
Location: From Elmendorf to Eglin
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Eh it's just like every other place I ever lived. Some good and some bad things about it, just all depends on personal preference. That's the important thing, being happy where you live. Luckily I have had the pleasure of living in some very unique and beautiful places all over the world. It has shown me where I want to call home and for that I am gratefull.
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Old 03-29-2010, 03:05 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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4 hours ?...I went to Manley last fall and it took me a good 6 hours from Fairbanks. Of course we were towing a boat. Still, it's a long ways between gas stations along that road I'll tell you that.

I did enjoy the seclusion up the Tanana River...it was nice.
Only took me 4 hours.

I'll say this: anyone who doesn't bring some extra gas with them would be unwise on that road...
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Palmer
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Seems like you'd be better off hiking for four hours than driving, and that only requires a good pair of boots. No matter what state you're in, you'll find more people at vehicle-accessible camping areas than in the backcountry. It doesn't seem like there's that much point in going somewhere like Alaska if you're going to stick to the roads and frontcountry places. Sure it's pretty and you can sit and look at it, but if you're not going to put forth more effort than that you're not going to get out of it what it really has to offer.
Believe me, it isn't crowded on the Elliot Hwy. And then we went on the Tanana River where it is even less crowded. I think I may have already put this link up somewhere, but this is a youtube of that trip...it starts on the Tanana.


YouTube - Moose Hunt 2009

Not very crowded
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:20 PM
 
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Yep! Don't see any crowds there.

Thanks for the video.
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Old 03-29-2010, 08:14 PM
 
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I see, what looks like, lots of people moving up to AK, but not many coming back down.....You Alaskan's going to run out of room any time soon?

When I went back up to the SE, last summer, I noticed there were more houses out in the......well I guess you would now call it "country", not bush, due to all the lights I saw. In 2000 and 2001, I remember how black the bush looked at night, but this last time, seemed like there were lights all over the place.
You mention SE....many parts of SE are actually shrinking in population. But, the area's been found to be a good spot for retirement/summer homes, which accounts for much of the new building at least on POW. Lots of rental cabins going up too. Visit in the winter though and most of the island isn't all that different than it was 30 years ago.
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:47 PM
 
Location: ID
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Seems like you'd be better off hiking for four hours than driving, and that only requires a good pair of boots. No matter what state you're in, you'll find more people at vehicle-accessible camping areas than in the backcountry. It doesn't seem like there's that much point in going somewhere like Alaska if you're going to stick to the roads and frontcountry places. Sure it's pretty and you can sit and look at it, but if you're not going to put forth more effort than that you're not going to get out of it what it really has to offer.
I definately agree with this.

Back in Tennessee the Smoky Mountains had over 9 million visits last year. The vast majority of them enjoyed the mountains from their cars. I can't remember the percentage of people who visited the Smokies that actually got out of their cars and walked over a mile onto a trail, but it was very small.

Same here. I walked on a trail close to a residential area today that was pretty crowded. Anytime I have walked into more remote back-country areas I have run into either no-one at all, or maybe one other couple. Foot and mountain bike travel is definately the way to go to get some quiet (well.....if you're not lucky enough to have a plane.......... )
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Old 03-29-2010, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Bush Alaska
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I can't remember the percentage of people who visited the Smokies that actually got out of their cars and walked over a mile onto a trail, but it was very small.
The hell you say!




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Old 03-29-2010, 10:55 PM
 
Location: ID
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Oh hell - I shoulda seen that coming.
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