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Old 04-27-2010, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Northern Minnesota
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As far as more arctic clothing check online at Cabela's.com, Gander Mountain.com, Sportman.com, Carharts.com, Sheels.com, SierraTradingPost.com and check ebay. THese are some of the sites that I have found good winter stuff for Northern Minnesota. Another option is the snowmobile racing wear.( Fox, ArcticCat, Polaris, Skidoo, etc... ) Their clothes are made for wind and weather. Good luck with your shopping. We are probably going to buy a 4-wheeler in Barrow if we have a place to keep it inside(garage, entry, etc...) Will keep thinking about boots and clothing. We are set from our winter's here so, no shopping for us. At least not for winter clothing. See you in Barrow.
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Barrow Alaska
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As far as more arctic clothing check online at Cabela's.com, Gander Mountain.com, Sportman.com, Carharts.com, Sheels.com, SierraTradingPost.com and check ebay. THese are some of the sites that I have found good winter stuff for Northern Minnesota. Another option is the snowmobile racing wear.( Fox, ArcticCat, Polaris, Skidoo, etc... ) Their clothes are made for wind and weather. Good luck with your shopping. We are probably going to buy a 4-wheeler in Barrow if we have a place to keep it inside(garage, entry, etc...) Will keep thinking about boots and clothing. We are set from our winter's here so, no shopping for us. At least not for winter clothing. See you in Barrow.
I hope to meet you
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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I hope to meet you
I wanna see both of you at Sam & Lee's, soon as you arrive here!
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Barrow Alaska
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I think that would be great Floyd, would enjoy meeting new faces of people i hope to be good friends with.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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I think that would be great Floyd, would enjoy meeting new faces of people i hope to be good friends with.
Well, by then the brand new Sam & Lee's will be open. And I have a couple friends that want to dazzle you with tales of terror about ice, cold, skeeters, wild women, long winters, the midnight sun and maybe something important too. Plus we're gonna measure the size of your bladder, in pots of coffee.

Show up early on a Sunday morning, and tell the family you'll be late getting home...
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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According to my records, it looks like Barrow got above freezing yesterday! For the first time this year the high was above 32F with a high of 39F and a low of 6F.
Is that accurate Floyd? Has Spring arrived in Barrow?
Thanks
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Old 04-28-2010, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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According to my records, it looks like Barrow got above freezing yesterday! For the first time this year the high was above 32F with a high of 39F and a low of 6F.
Is that accurate Floyd? Has Spring arrived in Barrow?
Thanks
Ah, well... no it isn't true! It looks like a fluke in the reporting system, not an real measurement. Happens now and then, but that is the worst one I've seen. Here are the hourly reported temperatures from the National Weather Service:

DATE-TIME____TEMP F (C) ____ DEW PT F (C) __ Altim __ Wind __ Weather
Apr 27 17:00 _ 18.0 ( -7.8) ___ 15.1 ( -9.4) ___ 29.85 ___ ENE 15 mist
Apr 27 16:00 _ 17.1 ( -8.3) ___ 14.0 (-10.0) ___ 29.86 ___ ENE 17 mist
Apr 27 15:00 _ 15.0 ( -9.0) ___ 12.0 (-11.0) ___ 29.86 ___ NE_ 17 mist
Apr 27 14:00 _ 14.0 (-10.0) __ 10.9 (-11.7) ___ 29.87 ___ NE_ 16 light snow; mist
Apr 27 13:00 _ 12.9 (-10.6) __ 10.0 (-12.2) ____ 29.88 ___ NE_ 18 light snow; mist
Apr 27 12:00 _ 12.0 (-11.0) ___ 8.0 (-13.0) ____ 29.89 ___ ENE 18 light snow; mist
Apr 27 11:00 _ 10.0 (-12.2) ___ 6.1 (-14.4) ____ 29.89 ___ NE_ 18 light ; mist
Apr 27 10:00 _ 10.0 (-12.0) ___ 6.0 (-14.0) ____ 29.90 ___ NE_ 20 light snow; mist
Apr 27 09:00 __ 8.0 (-13.0) ___ 3.0 (-16.0) _____ 29.91 ___ NE_ 21 light snow; blowing snow; mist
Apr 27 08:00 _ 39.2 ( 4.0) ____ 3.0 (-16.1) _____ 29.93 ___ NE_ 21
Apr 27 07:00 __ 6.0 (-14.0) ___ 3.0 (-16.0) _____ 29.94 ___ NE_ 21 blowing snow
Apr 27 06:00 __ 7.0 (-13.9) ___ 3.9 (-15.6) _____ 29.96 ___ NE_ 17
Apr 27 05:00 __ 7.0 (-13.9) ___ 3.9 (-15.6) _____ 29.96 ___ NE_ 21 light snow; mist
Apr 27 04:00 __ 6.1 (-14.4) ___ 3.0 (-16.1) _____ 29.97 ___ NE_ 20 light snow
Apr 27 03:00 __ 7.0 (-13.9) ____ 3.0 (-16.1) _____ 29.99 ___ NE_ 20 light snow
Apr 27 02:00 __ 6.0 (-14.0) ___ 1.0 (-17.0) _____ 30.00 ___ NE_ 18
Apr 27 01:00 __ 6.1 (-14.4) ___ 1.9 (-16.7) _____ 30.01 ___ NE_ 15
Apr 27 00:00 __ 6.1 (-14.4) ___ 1.9 (-16.7) _____ 30.01 ___ NE_ 15
Apr 26 23:00 __ 6.1 (-14.4) ___ 3.0 (-16.1) _____ 30.01 ___ NE_ 17
Apr 26 22:00 __ 7.0 (-13.9) ___ 3.0 (-16.1) _____ 30.03 ___ NE_ 18
Apr 26 21:00 __ 9.0 (-12.8) ___ 5.0 (-15.0) _____ 30.03 ___ NE_ 18
Apr 26 20:00 _ 10.0 (-12.2) ___ 5.0 (-15.0) ____ 30.04 ___ NNE 16
Apr 26 19:00 _ 10.9 (-11.7) ___ 5.0 (-15.0) ____ 30.05 ___ NE_ 15
Apr 26 18:00 _ 10.9 (-11.7) ___ 5.0 (-15.0) ____ 30.06 ___ NE_ 13

As you can see, at 7AM it was reporting 6 degrees, at 8AM 39.2 degrees and at 9AM back down to 8 degrees, and also that the Dew Point did not change.

A jump of 30 something degrees is extremely unlikely in one hour, but such a jump followed by a similar drop is simply not possible. Unless someone did something to artificially warm up the sensor, that has to be a bungled bit of data. It is also virtually impossible to have a 3F Dew Point with a 39F temperature!

Currently the temperatures have gone from 10 degrees to 20 degrees, a fairly significant jump here, slowly over the past 24 hours.

When it actually does warm up to freezing you'll see another interesting phenomena occur. For several days, most likely, it will remain within plus or minus 2 degrees of freezing. That is because the wind blows, we have an ocean on three sides that is filled with water and ice, and at freezing all of the energy that changes the air temperature is sinked into melting snow and ice (which requires many times more calories than raising the temperature one more degree).
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Ah, well... no it isn't true! It looks like a fluke in the reporting system, not an real measurement. Happens now and then, but that is the worst one I've seen. Here are the hourly reported temperatures from the National Weather Service:

DATE-TIME____TEMP F (C) ____ DEW PT F (C) __ Altim __ Wind __ Weather
Apr 27 17:00 _ 18.0 ( -7.8) ___ 15.1 ( -9.4) ___ 29.85 ___ ENE 15 mist
Apr 27 16:00 _ 17.1 ( -8.3) ___ 14.0 (-10.0) ___ 29.86 ___ ENE 17 mist
Apr 27 15:00 _ 15.0 ( -9.0) ___ 12.0 (-11.0) ___ 29.86 ___ NE_ 17 mist
Apr 27 14:00 _ 14.0 (-10.0) __ 10.9 (-11.7) ___ 29.87 ___ NE_ 16 light snow; mist
Apr 27 13:00 _ 12.9 (-10.6) __ 10.0 (-12.2) ____ 29.88 ___ NE_ 18 light snow; mist
Apr 27 12:00 _ 12.0 (-11.0) ___ 8.0 (-13.0) ____ 29.89 ___ ENE 18 light snow; mist
Apr 27 11:00 _ 10.0 (-12.2) ___ 6.1 (-14.4) ____ 29.89 ___ NE_ 18 light ; mist
Apr 27 10:00 _ 10.0 (-12.0) ___ 6.0 (-14.0) ____ 29.90 ___ NE_ 20 light snow; mist
Apr 27 09:00 __ 8.0 (-13.0) ___ 3.0 (-16.0) _____ 29.91 ___ NE_ 21 light snow; blowing snow; mist
Apr 27 08:00 _ 39.2 ( 4.0) ____ 3.0 (-16.1) _____ 29.93 ___ NE_ 21
Apr 27 07:00 __ 6.0 (-14.0) ___ 3.0 (-16.0) _____ 29.94 ___ NE_ 21 blowing snow
Apr 27 06:00 __ 7.0 (-13.9) ___ 3.9 (-15.6) _____ 29.96 ___ NE_ 17
Apr 27 05:00 __ 7.0 (-13.9) ___ 3.9 (-15.6) _____ 29.96 ___ NE_ 21 light snow; mist
Apr 27 04:00 __ 6.1 (-14.4) ___ 3.0 (-16.1) _____ 29.97 ___ NE_ 20 light snow
Apr 27 03:00 __ 7.0 (-13.9) ____ 3.0 (-16.1) _____ 29.99 ___ NE_ 20 light snow
Apr 27 02:00 __ 6.0 (-14.0) ___ 1.0 (-17.0) _____ 30.00 ___ NE_ 18
Apr 27 01:00 __ 6.1 (-14.4) ___ 1.9 (-16.7) _____ 30.01 ___ NE_ 15
Apr 27 00:00 __ 6.1 (-14.4) ___ 1.9 (-16.7) _____ 30.01 ___ NE_ 15
Apr 26 23:00 __ 6.1 (-14.4) ___ 3.0 (-16.1) _____ 30.01 ___ NE_ 17
Apr 26 22:00 __ 7.0 (-13.9) ___ 3.0 (-16.1) _____ 30.03 ___ NE_ 18
Apr 26 21:00 __ 9.0 (-12.8) ___ 5.0 (-15.0) _____ 30.03 ___ NE_ 18
Apr 26 20:00 _ 10.0 (-12.2) ___ 5.0 (-15.0) ____ 30.04 ___ NNE 16
Apr 26 19:00 _ 10.9 (-11.7) ___ 5.0 (-15.0) ____ 30.05 ___ NE_ 15
Apr 26 18:00 _ 10.9 (-11.7) ___ 5.0 (-15.0) ____ 30.06 ___ NE_ 13

As you can see, at 7AM it was reporting 6 degrees, at 8AM 39.2 degrees and at 9AM back down to 8 degrees, and also that the Dew Point did not change.

A jump of 30 something degrees is extremely unlikely in one hour, but such a jump followed by a similar drop is simply not possible. Unless someone did something to artificially warm up the sensor, that has to be a bungled bit of data. It is also virtually impossible to have a 3F Dew Point with a 39F temperature!

Currently the temperatures have gone from 10 degrees to 20 degrees, a fairly significant jump here, slowly over the past 24 hours.

When it actually does warm up to freezing you'll see another interesting phenomena occur. For several days, most likely, it will remain within plus or minus 2 degrees of freezing. That is because the wind blows, we have an ocean on three sides that is filled with water and ice, and at freezing all of the energy that changes the air temperature is sinked into melting snow and ice (which requires many times more calories than raising the temperature one more degree).
Dang it! I knew it was probably some kind of fluke compared to the average and low of yesterday. I didn't even have any info on the dew point. It makes sense now.
Now down in Fairbanks, that is accurate. They were at 65F yesterday and 66F today, which is near a record. They've got a heat wave going on down there.
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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Now down in Fairbanks, that is accurate. They were at 65F yesterday and 66F today, which is near a record. They've got a heat wave going on down there.
There's an interesting point to that too!

Coastal areas, and even locations on the fringe of coastal areas such as places 100 miles inland, have a very long drawn out "breakup", and spring can be pretty ugly for well over a month as it gradually goes from full winter at the beginning April until sometime in June when things are finally green.

But the Interior? Danged near overnight! Around Fairbanks you can be out on snowmachines, and literally less than two weeks later everything is turning green!

Of course in Fairbanks it might get into the 90's in June, July, August and even September. While here in Barrow we might get one or two days that go above 70 in mid July. (And trust me, we'd just as soon it not do that, because more than half the population can barely breath in that kind of sweltering heat.)
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Northern Minnesota
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I remembered the name of the site my hubby likes. It was sportsmanguide.com not sportsman.com.
You will want to get some smartwool socks. They are very good and not as thick as regular ones. A good pair of mittens . Gloves will freeze your fingers. For your wife, cuddle duds. They are nice long underwear that are very warm and very thin. I get mine a Herbergers. I think they would have them at Bon-Ton or Yonkers type stores. They are big time on sale now. We live by them here. You can wear them under dress pants and shirts. My hubby wears columbia thin insulated underwear. There are many kinds available. You will need them. Hope this helps. We will have to have coffee after the move.
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