BP spill is already far larger than the 1989 Exxon Valdez (condo, airplane)

[starlite9]

The oil that is now reaching the beaches has very little if any solvents left in it. What is left it the "Mousse" that I discribed earlier that would be hitting the beaches after being at sea for a month or longer.

It is a mess, but much easier to clean up because when it hits the beach, it just sits there and when dried can be picked up and put into a bag, even burned if required to.


"Mousse Patties" that are common all along the affected areas, don't put off a sheen that is common to fresh oil. As the water comes and goes over it, it will be rolled into a tarballs.

Moussed oil that is off the beach, again, note there is no sheen around the oil in it's last stage of decomposing. It is still deadly to birds that would come into contact with it and would stick to their feathers.


Aerial shot of the Moussed oil coming into the coastal areas (brown stuff, black stuff is open water). Again there is no sheen from what is left of the weathered oil, it is just a mass like a chocolate pudding. It will kill off small animals that come into contact with it, but as it decomposes, it will become fertilizer and the plant life will grow off of it for the next bunch of years and will in the long run grow very well as it did in the EXXON Valdez and Selendang Ayu photos that I took during those spill cleanups.

[RedJacket]

Exxon Valdez lawyer still fighting for clients

Exxon Valdez lawyer still fighting for clients - CNN.com

A few nights ago I watched a 2 hour special about the Valdez spill on The Green Planet Channel. I was struck by the similarities between that spill and the Gulf.

The warnings beforehand. The lack of oversight. The lies. Exxon's promise to make everyone affected whole again. How once the media left, Exxon reneged on just about everything and lawyered up. There are quite a number of people who helped with the clean up that are very ill today. To date, Exxon has spent about $600 million defending themselves -- more than the $500 million the SC gave the people of Alaska.

Cordova has never been the same and I suspect that'll be the case with the Gulf states. Oil companies have no qualms about destroying an area and moving on.

[derek2010]

Just think all that oil we could be using, but now washing on the shores. What a waste.

[Manmountain]

Goin gangbusters on the Wyoming-Oregon Gasline RUBY. The co's got bookoo bucks and spending like drunken sailors-- keep ya on the clock for 10 hours to see what might happen. Its coming to AK pipe that is-- may be 4 years but she'll go from the oldtimers I see.

Epic just Epic the disaster now. The seafloor in the Gulf has been fractured “beyond all repair”. The scientists found that up to 18 other sites are leaking with the largest being 11 km away from the sinking and leaking about 2 million barrels per day. 2 interceptor wells are digging now. Why dont they drill 10 holes? Know what it take to intercept a 9 inch hole 7 miles away?
News says scientists were reportedly prohibited from reporting their finding to the media or US public. The death cult has there teeth in everything anymore.

What I do know is that this is so much worse than is being let on and it will take much longer to stop and at best we will have a huge ecological disaster to clean up in the Gulf, at a minimum. This is best case, as bad as it sounds.



Now oil dispersant being used turning gaseous and raining down from the clouds as acid rain, in turn, destroying all microbial life to the bottom. Ya know Bophal comes to mind.


Head in the sands days are over folks. Cant decide on deflationary depression or Inflationary--- either way the savings and investments of dumbed-down Americants will be toast-- got a 401K? -- 0% possibility it will appreciate 7% a year over the next 15 years and be worth more than 50% of what it will buy today. Add hyperinflation to that mix and YOUR DONEEEE.....

Rumor from my Fishboat Captain friend that got stiffed by Exxon is that Alaska may have an influx of fisherman from the Gulf moving to the Southeast and buying boats and running comercial up there. May really put pressure on Trawler prices etc.

Have a good trip My Alaskans Friends-- these are unprecedented times. Supply line interuptions similar to the problems created by 9$ heating oil prices to the villages last years past will hit all of AK. Have your Stogether and be a true Alaskan and be prepared . Prepared meaning 6 months with no nothin huney!!!
its coming and throw the boob tube in the fire barrel--we need you SMART AND SQUARED AWAY.

[AADAD]

truly scary, sea floor fractured. worst nightmare.

[Rance]

Fractures? First I've heard of it. I don't recall the sunken platform doing any frac work. Just cementing casing. Maybe some earthquakes fractured something.
Now if they did a **** poor cement job they might have an underground blowout. In which case gas/oil could be coming up the outside of the casing and leaching out at various points around the well site.
11 km is hard for me to believe tho. Sounds like more of a natural occurance than man made if it's 11 km away.

[RedJacket]

This video is strange. I know nothing about drilling so I can't figure out what is happening. Perhaps someone else can.


YouTube - Gulf oil crisis- Possible sea floor collapse video

[princesasabia]

Originally Posted by think first

Make no mistake, BP is still running the show. Corporations run this country, not the federal government.

So true, so true!

[gallon]

My question for Alaskans. Does this disaster in the gulf influence your thinking on the proposed future huge copper mine in western AK? Similarity would be the vast environmental responsibility handed over to a foreign company.

[FloridaKash]

Originally Posted by gallon

My question for Alaskans. Does this disaster in the gulf influence your thinking on the proposed future huge copper mine in western AK? Similarity would be the vast environmental responsibility handed over to a foreign company.

I think most Alaskans are against Pebble Mine. Of course I could be wrong and the opposition is just more vocal.