BP spill is already far larger than the 1989 Exxon Valdez (lease, transfer)

[akdreamin]

Originally Posted by Moose Whisperer

Bingo! Hypocrisy is the driving factor behind all of this phoney-baloney outrage seen here, in the media, and in DC. Everyone is equally complicit in our modern petro-based economy. Some realize that disasters do happen, that appropriate actions are then taken, and we move on with life - the world is not perfect. Others however play the blame game and compete for who can bellyache the loudest, providing no real solutions to the problem at hand.

I agree that the most important thing here is not "blame" or figuring out what went wrong but rather capping the damn well.

However afterwards is another story. Some disasters are more preventable than others, namely this one is looking, to me, not like a freak disaster accident but rather criminal negligence on the part of the company. Failed tests, a blowout preventer that simple wouldn't ever have worked etc etc.

[akdreamin]

Originally Posted by starlite9

They were also talking about the bacteria that is eating the oil is removing the oxygen from the area, the lack of Oxygen may lead to other issues also. But it may show that the Ocean is cleaning itself regardless of the stupid stuff engineers claim that won't happen.

Yea bacteria will begin to eat the oil, but they simply cant eat it fast enough. Also, the oil itself is toxic to sea-life as well as the resulting oxygen starvation from the bacteria growth. Simply put, as my grandad would say its a gahw-damn mess.

[AADAD]

Not an expert by any means but it sounds as if there were red flags starting two months ago and both BP and the rigs owner failed to address them. Oil is not the enemy, the current mental paradigm of profit privatized and disaster socialized is. A fair minded person would at the very least consider negligence and hard time for people who intentionally ignored steps designed to prevent this disaster. And you're right the cost to the lives and lifestyles will cause billions. Put people in jail (real jail) when BP comes whining to the feds hit them with a collusion lawsuit knock em out. Time is up IMO. 11 lives here and 15 a few years ago. Enough.

[RedJacket]

By law, BP is on the hook for only $75 million dollars (clean-up costs) and you can bet their lawyers will see to it they pay not one penny more.

The US is 40% of BP's market and they've produced one mess after another w/o paying the consequences. Of course, they have paid the right politicians a good sum of money.

BP = Big Profits employing Bought off Politicians.

[GrammasCabin]

Maybe someone can answer a question for me. Why hasn't the President told BP to "move over" and called in the navy and sent out requests to evey professional on the globe to put their heads together to solve this crisis. This has the potential to be a world catastrophe, it is EVERYONE'S catastrophe, not BP's. They don't seem to know how to do anything but cut corners and lie. Why are they still in charge of the disaster they created!!?? Yeah, send them the bill but we should stop trusting them, stop believing their lies, get them the hell outta the way and start fixing this mess.
BP seems to be all proud that they may be retrieving 1,000 barrels of this poison a day with their stint but if the scientists are right, there are as much as 70,000 barrels gushing from that hole in our earth, NOT the 5,000 that BP tries to make us believe That's like bragging that you're catching the drips from a running faucet. WTF!. Look how long it took them to finally release a lousy 30 seconds of footage after hundreds of requests for weeks. We have no idea what's really going on down there and BP is hellbent on keeping it that way.

I give our President benefit for doing his best with a lot to deal with but, everything else aside, this has to be dealt with YESTERDAY! Where the blazes is he!!

[blueflames50]

did anyone else catch the short special program on the oil extraction machine that Kevin Cosner and his business partner have made and are patenting??? he has oil from water extraction process within 3% of being clean enough to drink.....interesting....I hope he has made a mega version for this oil spill...

[Captain Crunch]

Now that Obama has asked BP to clarify their original statements about fully funding the clean up and related losses we'll see what they are really made out of....

I think we all know the real answer to that...."Dodge Baby Dodge"

Even if they funded all this mess, lets say in the billions over the next few years...any doubt who will actually pay for that, yep they'll pass that cost of doing business onto the consumers via gas pricing rather than burdening their shareholders

[Captain Crunch]

The Texas BP refinery deal was a direct result of the same kinda crappolla & negligence and 15 people died there.

They got a bill for $115 million in fines....which they have never paid

BP equals mega profits by cutting corners....27 dead employees so far

Their other rig in the gulf will be next to crash and burn & spill.. as described on 60 minutes Sunday night

[Captain Crunch]

Mark will no doubh attach his crappolla spin on this, don't bother reading that

Mike Mason has no reason to lie about any of this...

10 related video clip interviews...

SHANNYN MOORE: JUST A GIRL FROM HOMER

[starlite9]

Originally Posted by AADAD

Not an expert by any means but it sounds as if there were red flags starting two months ago and both BP and the rigs owner failed to address them. Oil is not the enemy, the current mental paradigm of profit privatized and disaster socialized is. A fair minded person would at the very least consider negligence and hard time for people who intentionally ignored steps designed to prevent this disaster. And you're right the cost to the lives and lifestyles will cause billions. Put people in jail (real jail) when BP comes whining to the feds hit them with a collusion lawsuit knock em out. Time is up IMO. 11 lives here and 15 a few years ago. Enough.

After any "Event", there is always some kind of "Red" flag, they didn't do this, they didn't do that... and so forth, mostly they are claims from people that don't know anything but want their five minutes of fame. The real facts in time will come out, and then life will go on.

During the EXXON Valdez oil spill they charged the Captain with all sorts of criminal acts, mostly in effect to make a name for the Governor, Prosecutors, and a host of other people. The reason that Hazelwood didn't get convicted of long list of "Crimes" is that under the Federal Law at that time, it was stated that the "Master of a vessel that reports a spill will not be held criminally liable", so all charges were dropped (except for some community service hours that he worked) and his Captain's License was restored and he went back to sea for a time then retired. The EXXON Valdez was in the Federally Mandated Vessel Control Zone operated by the Coast Guard, they were the ones that gave permission for Hazelwood to turn from the outbound lane to the inbound lane to avoid the ice bergs coming out of the Columbia Glacier Bay, but never watched their radar for an hour and a half from the Pototae Point Radar site to tell the ship to make a right turn either. The Coast Guard was also at fault, but that was never told to the public and only in closed room hearings.

The law has since been changed. But everyone was jumping on the "Red Flag" issue then, and the Gulf spill won't be any different. Currently you have the Congress holding all sorts of show trials to make them look like they are on top of everything, when in fact, they know nothing, but they are full of S**t... which is pretty much normal.