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Saying there are a lot of people who want a bigger arena isn't enough to get the powers that be to build it bigger. You have to have proof and market studies that show that.
They just did a $700,000 study, and it said 12,500 is the right capacity. My disagreeing is irrelevent. That is what the study said.
Now, if someone wants to go to the city council and ask why the capacity isn't, say, 16,000, they may have an answer. And my guess would be they would say, "The study said 12,500 is the optimal capacity for an arena in Albuquerque at this time, given the market size and economic situation here."
Then what are we going to say? "But we want it to be bigger 'cause the one in Omaha is bigger."
That's not a viable argument.
But maybe a coalition of concerned citizens can ban together and form a group to challenge the study, then convince the mayor and city council to build bigger. I am not being facetious, I think it will take more than just posting here about it.
I am ok with the arena plans. I am ok with a bigger arena.
I am just not getting emotionally invested in either.
What's weird is that a couple of years ago a 10,000 seat arena was going to be built at 1st and Central, and Mayor Marty pulled the plug on that when it was realized public money would be needed to construct it. Now, here we are, three years later, and a new study says 12,500.
If we wait two more years, maybe another study will say 15,000!!
Fargo,North Dakota(pop.90,000) has a good looking 18,500 seat arena, its used for their university football team,concerts,musicals,and trade shows, it has also hosted concerts like the Rolling Stones,Aerosmith and ACDC will be there in January but not in ABQ. Bon Jovi also played to more than 24,000 in there, could we draw that much?
Anyways it would be cool to have something,I guess 12,500 is better than nothing.
Fargo,North Dakota(pop.90,000) has a good looking 18,500 seat arena, its used for their university football team,concerts,musicals,and trade shows, it has also hosted concerts like the Rolling Stones,Aerosmith and ACDC will be there in January but not in ABQ. Bon Jovi also played to more than 24,000 in there, could we draw that much?
Anyways it would be cool to have something,I guess 12,500 is better than nothing.
Well UNM has a 38,000 seat football stadium. If the university allowed more bands to play there, we could land some really big shows to the football stadium.
I would have to agree with Rob on this, I think that if the market could sustain a bigger center they would do so the first time, afterall that would mean more money for the developers anyway. I have no doubt we could sell 18-20,000 tickets for certain shows, but I am not sure about doing it on a consistent basis.
My arguement would be that the developers and those consulting need to look at the bigger picture. If it were a big show, or sporting event, you have to factor in the entire state's population as well as that of El Paso, Lubbock, Amarillo, and parts of Souther Colorado, and Eastern Arizona. For many of these folks this would be the closest event center, which would push the population in which it can draw from well over the 2,000,000 mark.
Rob, only parts of the study have yet to come out. And the study has only shown that a hotel would be viable with a said arena of that size. Also, I think you might have confused that Albuquerque could support that size arena with that would be the optimal size.
Rob, only parts of the study have yet to come out. And the study has only shown that a hotel would be viable with a said arena of that size. Also, I think you might have confused that Albuquerque could support that size arena with that would be the optimal size.
Are there any studies that show Albuquerque can support a larger arena?
My only reason for asking is that the mayor, city council, and those who fund such things are going to want demographic data for our city to support a larger arena.
This arena is never gonna happen, I guarantee you all.
Sweet. Who in their right mind would want to live downtown with a giant Arena across the street. Those things belong in the middle of nowhere.
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Originally Posted by desert sun
I have noticed recently that a couple of concerts and a comedy show is being held at the convention center downtown, I wonder why all of a sudden they are putting concerts there.
"Sweet. Who in their right mind would want to live downtown with a giant Arena across the street. Those things belong in the middle of nowhere."
I live in Chicago about a block from Wrigley Field and I can tell you that there is a pretty big market for people who want to live near a ball park or stadium - believe me. And there are businesses all over this area that greatly benefit from the stadium being here. This neighborhood is a very densly populated neighborhood too.
I think you all may be slightly underestimating the advantages of having a stadium in a major core of the city.
Some people like being in the middle of a place where things actually happen. For those that don't - let them stay in the suburbs.
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