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Old 09-30-2010, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Chihuahuan Desert
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I keep getting asked for "gas money to get back home to Santa Fe/Taos/Moriarity/East Mountains/somewhere in the state".

I always want to ask, "what part of the gas gauge don't you understand?"
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Old 09-30-2010, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM - Summerlin, NV
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Some people just don't understand what it is to WORK. And realize we work hard for what we have.

I honestly can not stand pan-handlers. Ugh.
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Old 09-30-2010, 08:11 PM
 
Location: CRESCIT EUNDO
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Albuquerque has really great homeless services at several facilities downtown. I used to volunteer at one. Meals, showers, mail services, clothing, training, travel assistance for legitimately stranded people, dog food for companion animals, and a multitude of other free services await. Just point them downtown. It's not what they want to hear.
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Old 09-30-2010, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM - Summerlin, NV
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I'm so committed to helping the homeless as well, It must be the most awful thing ever. I myself have volunteered at one as well and contributed to one. But at least it is not as bad here as many other cities.

I used to hear, Los Alamos used to take the homeless out of the city to somewhere else. I have no idea if that is true. But how sad.
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Old 09-30-2010, 08:53 PM
 
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Not all pan handlers homeless. It is often addicts who want money to feed their addiction. I have one distant family member who is not homeless, but she does not work and all she does day after day is ask people on the streets for money to feed her habit. Most people who give her money probably think she is homeless.

And a lot of homeless people do not want to change their situation. I know this sounds crazy, but it's true. The fact is that these people are usually very mentally ill, so they are not thinking the same way most people do. I used to work at UNM Psychiatric Center and we had a lot of homeless folks go through there. There were tons of resources where I could get them motel vouchers or other types of temporary housing. A lot of them just wanted to be let out the front door so they could go back to their usual homeless way of living. It is indeed very sad.
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Old 10-01-2010, 09:42 AM
 
Location: CRESCIT EUNDO
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Not all pan handlers homeless. It is often addicts who want money to feed their addiction. I have one distant family member who is not homeless, but she does not work and all she does day after day is ask people on the streets for money to feed her habit. Most people who give her money probably think she is homeless.

And a lot of homeless people do not want to change their situation. I know this sounds crazy, but it's true. The fact is that these people are usually very mentally ill, so they are not thinking the same way most people do. I used to work at UNM Psychiatric Center and we had a lot of homeless folks go through there. There were tons of resources where I could get them motel vouchers or other types of temporary housing. A lot of them just wanted to be let out the front door so they could go back to their usual homeless way of living.
True, and the vast majority of homeless are not panhandlers, who are usually just looking for their next fix.

Homelessness is sad, yes, but what's sadder to me is the wasteful culture (over 40% of the food we produce goes to waste--read about it), the salaries of professional athletes and entertainers, and hearing about Lindsey Lohan in the news every day, to name a few. I was glad to see, though, that there are hotels and restaurants (and other businesses) downtown that donate extra food from banquets and events to the shelters. The Roadrunner Food Bank is an awesome organization that "harvests" food that would otherwise go to waste because it expired on supermarket shelves and cannot be sold.
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Old 10-01-2010, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Abu Al-Qurq
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sadder to me is the wasteful culture (over 40% of the food we produce goes to waste--
They waste more food in the third world due to spoilage. What percentage is acceptable, particularly considering our bulging waistlines as it is? Or maybe we should grow less food in case famine or drought doesn't come?

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the salaries of professional athletes and entertainers,
They entertain (so much so that stadiums sell tickets for ridiculous sums and yet aren't empty), and they incentivize you to buy the products they hawk. Are you saying their corporate sponsors should pay them less and let the CEO keep the difference?

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and hearing about Lindsey Lohan in the news every day, to name a few.
Methinks maybe what you're listening to/watching/reading isn't really news.

Some people go hungry, but for the first time in world history, there will be more people who are overweight than underweight on this planet. Most likely to be overweight? the poor.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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The fact is that these people are usually very mentally ill, ...
Interestingly, back in the 70's or so, people who were deemed NOT to be a threat to others or themselves were "let out" to fend for themselves.

I would argue that someone incapable of keeping themselves in good order are a threat to themselves.

The problem, won't be solved until we get rid of the camps that say:

(1) These people are all just lazy and should get a job.

(2) These people are just like you and me and just need a hand.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:14 AM
 
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Interestingly, back in the 70's or so, people who were deemed NOT to be a threat to others or themselves were "let out" to fend for themselves.
Hang a sign saying "Roma" around their necks and send them to Paris...
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:04 PM
 
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True, and the vast majority of homeless are not panhandlers, who are usually just looking for their next fix.

Homelessness is sad, yes, but what's sadder to me is the wasteful culture (over 40% of the food we produce goes to waste--read about it), the salaries of professional athletes and entertainers, and hearing about Lindsey Lohan in the news every day, to name a few. I was glad to see, though, that there are hotels and restaurants (and other businesses) downtown that donate extra food from banquets and events to the shelters. The Roadrunner Food Bank is an awesome organization that "harvests" food that would otherwise go to waste because it expired on supermarket shelves and cannot be sold.
Great post...and so true. There is more than enough abundance in this world to accommodate everyone.
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