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Old 02-03-2011, 12:10 PM
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Bernalillo, parts of the west side, KAFB... craziness.

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BERNALILLO, N.M. -- The entire town of Bernalillo is without gas, town officials said.

Because of the outage, the town is setting up a couple of emergency shelters.

One is at the Village Community Center at 370 Rotary Park Road.

In addition, the National Guard is setting up a shelter at the Hawk Missile Site just off of Highway 550 West of Bernalillo.

The Guard will be arranging transportation for people who need to go to that shelter.
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Old 02-03-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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My parents live in Bernalillo and their area is NOT without gas...they are off Sheriff's Posse on the west side of the river, which might make a difference.

Mayor Berry is asking everyone to turn their thermostat down by 10 degrees ( brr ) and layer up.
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Old 02-03-2011, 12:26 PM
 
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I believe there is also a shelter at the Santa Ana Star casino.
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Old 02-03-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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We're out in Placitas. According to the NM Gas Co web site, Espanola, Taos, parts of Silver City, Otero county and numerous other places are out.

I think NMGC needs to do some 'splaining when this is all over.
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Old 02-03-2011, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Reading lots of reasons, excuses, etc., but it appears most of our Natural Gas comes from Texas? Really?

Anyways most homes in Texas are heated by electricity. Huge electricity usage caused spike and the cold cause some coal plants to go off line. This created rolling blackout. They fired up some natural gas plants but some of the gas pumps were without electricity so they couldn't get gas to the plants to make the electricity to pump the gas...

Additionally 3 large basins of natural gas where frozen in Texas. And of course natural gas demand went up because of the cold.

All this equals mass shortages/delivery problems. At least this is the explanation for the power outages in Texas and the shortages of gas in South East NM. I am not sure where the gas for Albuquerque metro comes from and if this is the same reason or not.
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Old 02-03-2011, 01:17 PM
 
Location: ABQ, NM
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It sounded like it was the same reason for Albuquerque, the main gas line into the city just doesn't have enough coming in. As far as KAFB being without gas, that was done on purpose to conserve. They are actually doing us all a big favor by helping NM Gas Co. keep demand down. Bottom line, the gas company is doing a great job with the resources on hand.
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:06 PM
 
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I live in Texas and have gas heating, but I did experience the rolling blackout (in addition to a 3-hour power outage, which shuts the central gas heat down). This weather is no fun for anyone, excepting kids who don't have to go to school.
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:01 PM
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Gov. Susana Martinez declared a state of emergency on Thursday afternoon for a statewide gas shortage.

Governor Declares State Of Emergency - Albuquerque News Story - KOAT Albuquerque
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:39 PM
 
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It sounded like it was the same reason for Albuquerque, the main gas line into the city just doesn't have enough coming in ... Bottom line, the gas company is doing a great job with the resources on hand.
I couldn't disagree more because NMGC determines what resources they need to have on hand.

If the problem is that the pipe isn't big enough, then we have a serious long term problem. Not only are we at risk for this happening again, but the likelihood of it happening will increase as more people and businesses move to Albuquerque & NM and demand increases. If that's the problem and it's not fixed, it will hamper economic development as well as create more problems like we're now having. NMGC has not made this claim, however, they cite shortage of supply to put in the pipe.

NMGC has little or no storage capability. Knowing that, they have to be able to meet current demand with current supply. To do so, they should have redundant means of supply. Yet, they apparently rely on a major source of supply from Texas. They haven't yet said that they haven't the physical capability to do so to broaden their supply base, so I can only guess that the reason is financial. It would cost some money to lock up added supply, even on a contingent basis, and I'd guess they took the risk they wouldn't need it.

The country is awash with natural gas, including huge amounts close to NM. To not take advantage of that supply is corporate misfeasance. From my experience, they've committed just about the worst mistake a gas utility can make - failure to have enough supply to meet their customers' needs. The only thing worse is to act or fail to act in a way that leads to injury or death. We'll have to wait and see about that.
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Old 02-03-2011, 04:18 PM
 
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I couldn't disagree more because NMGC determines what resources they need to have on hand.

If the problem is that the pipe isn't big enough, then we have a serious long term problem. Not only are we at risk for this happening again, but the likelihood of it happening will increase as more people and businesses move to Albuquerque & NM and demand increases. If that's the problem and it's not fixed, it will hamper economic development as well as create more problems like we're now having. NMGC has not made this claim, however, they cite shortage of supply to put in the pipe.

NMGC has little or no storage capability. Knowing that, they have to be able to meet current demand with current supply. To do so, they should have redundant means of supply. Yet, they apparently rely on a major source of supply from Texas. They haven't yet said that they haven't the physical capability to do so to broaden their supply base, so I can only guess that the reason is financial. It would cost some money to lock up added supply, even on a contingent basis, and I'd guess they took the risk they wouldn't need it.

The country is awash with natural gas, including huge amounts close to NM. To not take advantage of that supply is corporate misfeasance. From my experience, they've committed just about the worst mistake a gas utility can make - failure to have enough supply to meet their customers' needs. The only thing worse is to act or fail to act in a way that leads to injury or death. We'll have to wait and see about that.
I agree that they could have more suppliers. Your idea is to get the gas from places close to NM, and yet the problem is with a basin that sits under west Texas and NM. The pipes are big enough, but the gas isn't being delivered because there is not enough electricity to run the compressors that put the gas in the pipes under pressure. They also are relying on other sources, but its not enough. Also, Arizona is being affected by this. This means that NM Gas Co probably isn't to blame, the way that we move natural gas around the entire country is.
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