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It'll be interesting to see if they eventually incorporate as their own city since the development will be in the county.
There are two likely possibilities:
*They'll get annexed into the city of Albuquerque, because there is no other likely way for them to get water rights. Can't build a community without water, and Albuquerque controls the area's water.
It'll be interesting to see if they eventually incorporate as their own city since the development will be in the county.
The master plan talks extensively about establishing APS schools and as mentioned, they're almost certain to be dependent on Albuquerque for water. I'd give annexation significantly higher odds than incorporating as a new community at this point.
The master plan talks extensively about establishing APS schools and as mentioned, they're almost certain to be dependent on Albuquerque for water. I'd give annexation significantly higher odds than incorporating as a new community at this point.
Another Mesa Del Sol .......huge plans with flat results. I'm convinced Albuquerque doesn't know how to grow or develop new communities. So as long as these "planned communities" allow themselves to get annexed into Albuquerque they are doomed.
It'll be interesting to see if they eventually incorporate as their own city since the development will be in the county.
I think Albuquerque would incorporate it within the city limits. It would be the best thing to do since it needs to depend on something. If you want the community to have success it needs to thrive off of Albuquerque. It is a county issue now but in 10 years it will be a city issue.
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Another Mesa Del Sol .......huge plans with flat results. I'm convinced Albuquerque doesn't know how to grow or develop new communities. So as long as these "planned communities" allow themselves to get annexed into Albuquerque they are doomed.
The problem with master plans like these is you need huge investors and developers behind you to make it happen. This could be the next Centennial, Colorado to Denver. Many years ago I lived in Denver and the thought of even having such a master plan for Centennial was outrageous. It can be successful and I don't think they are 'doomed'.
As much as people want the city's population to stagnate, it's likely to continue to grow, and I think these planned communities are an improvement over endless seas of single family homes with commercial clusters scattered about.
I do, however, think Mesa del Sol has a few major flaws with the first being that they're trying to create a less car-dominant environment without offering alternatives to driving.
The other problem is they're selling single family homes without backyards! To me that would pretty much be a deal breaker. It's still very possible to build a pedestrian-oriented environment without sacrificing yard space.
I'm not sure what the details are on this new proposed development, but I hope they make an effort to build it around transit and not just roads, and I hope their houses have backyards.
I also wish the city would encourage developers to revamp and infill underutilized areas within the city limits - I think there's a lot of room to grow 'in' before we continue to grow out.
Are there any sites that go into further detail about this development?
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As much as people want the city's population to stagnate, it's likely to continue to grow
I do, however, think Mesa del Sol has a few major flaws with the first being that they're trying to create a less car-dominant environment without offering alternatives to driving.
The other problem is they're selling single family homes without backyards!
Some people don't want yards...
Mesa del Sol was in the planning stages in the 1980s and pretty much started in 2002, with some failures and then kicked back in in 2011. It was to be built over 40 years to have about 100,000 people... There have been countless opinions of the good points and bad points, but some of the intended commercial and government facilities attempting to be part of Mesa del Sol walked away.
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Are there any sites that go into further detail about this development?
*They'll get annexed into the city of Albuquerque, because there is no other likely way for them to get water rights. Can't build a community without water, and Albuquerque controls the area's water.
*Nothing will be built.
The water is controlled by the ABCWUA which is governed jointly by the city and county. It's not a foregone conclusion that annexation into Albuquerque would be a prerequisite for attaining water.
I think Albuquerque would incorporate it within the city limits. It would be the best thing to do since it needs to depend on something. If you want the community to have success it needs to thrive off of Albuquerque. It is a county issue now but in 10 years it will be a city issue.
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Rio Rancho wasn't annexed into ABQ and they seem to be doing OK.
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