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Old 04-27-2009, 08:09 AM
 
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"the now discredited "Smart Growth" movement sponsored by the U.S. EPA that caused the national foreclosure crisis"

So the EPA caused the foreclosure crisis?
No doubt the non-carbon neutrality of Xeriscaping is caused by the Black Helicopters
that hover overhead to ensure than no blade of grass is grown...
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Old 04-27-2009, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Marlborough, MA
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I knew I saw something fly over my fescue and non-native water sucking plants! Thanks for the clarification!
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Burque!
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Kentucky Bluegrass and plenty of it.


More people need to run their sprinklers 24/7 so we can suck the last drop out of the system and drive the interlopers back to wherever they came from. Conserving water only means there are more resources for more people to pile in here and get in our way. "Smart growth" is a fools errand.
Oddly enough... I like your plan. Drive back the carpetbaggers by depleting our own resources... brilliant!
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Burque!
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"planting native, drought resistant plants like cacti, wild grasses, summer blooming wildflowers (like you see in the petroglyths) and native oak trees"

THAT IS XERISCAPING! XERISCAPING IS NATURAL GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:33 PM
 
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I am now more confused than ever from Tom Lane's response.

Rybert is right. Xeriscaping uses plants. Take a look at the High Country Gardens catalog.

I just don't understand why you consider gravel xeriscaping.

People took the easy way out in the 90s by ripping up nonnative grass and putting in rocks. They called it xeriscaping, but were wrong. A well-thought-out xeriscaped yard is beautiful and can be expensive if you hire someone to do it. Rocks are easier - just pull a random weed, add more rocks if needed, but that is not xeriscaping.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:50 PM
 
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Tom,
I saw this on your twitter.

"Smart Growth States = High Unemployment Feb. 2009: OR-12%; CA-11%; GA-9%; WA-9%; whereas NM, OK, and TX at 6%; WY-5%: Table 1. Civilian labor force and unemployment by state and metropolitan area "


it has to be one of the absurd correlations I have ever seen. The abuse of statistics does not make the resulting pablum fact.
There is one fact that is obvious, your logic is complete balderdash.
One might also gather that the most ignorant people in the country live in NM, OK, and TX as they are too stupid to demand a living wage. That would be balderdash, wouldn't it. Maybe we could deduce that in a down economy people still gots to have their chickens slaughtered in a OK. chicken slaughterhouse. I could go on. Truly Tom your logic escapes me.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:35 PM
 
Location: San Juan County, New Mexico
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Oddly enough... I like your plan. Drive back the carpetbaggers by depleting our own resources... brilliant!



Hayduke lives.
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Old 04-27-2009, 11:40 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Yard maintenance becomes a once every couple/three weeks event
and only requires one beer to get through it.
Who gets the beer - me or the plants?
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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You get the beer. <<-- Why do I have the feeling I'm
................................ answering a smart-aleck?

"Beer" is a unit of time. So is "glass of Chardonney."
(Note that red wine and distilled beverages are NOT
appropriate for lawn maintenance.)

Yard maintenance should be a civilized affair. It should involve alcohol
and *not* involve stuff like sweating, getting frustrated, stuff like that.

Even if you have a lawn, get a non-powered push mower (the old-fashioned
kind with the curley blades) and do it twice a week so you don't have to bag
the grass. No oil. No gasoline. Just the sweet smell of cut grass.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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Yard maintenance should be a civilized affair. It should involve alcohol and *not* involve stuff like sweating, getting frustrated, stuff like that.
Obviously, you've never had the extreme pleasure of planting 500 buffalo grass plugs by hand...

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and do it twice a week so you don't have to bag
the grass. No oil. No gasoline.
Here's the payoff for buffalo...it only grows to 4-6 in. high. If you can live with the "prairie look", a dormant lawn in the winter, and no lawn mowing, this is the grass for you.
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