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Old 09-18-2009, 01:19 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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I'm for road apples. Imagine the soil we could produce! With topsoil loss being one of the greatest under reported ecological disasters of our day due to sprawl development, a new source of nutritious soil ammendments would be a welcome thing. Plus think of all the jobs that would be created, stable hands, farriers, wainwrights, wheelwrights, soil specialists (from scooping to composting), glue makers, etc. Bring back the horse!

That said, I agree with the people in the link that the horses in the tourist trade in NYC have it hard.

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Old 09-18-2009, 01:29 PM
 
Location: New Mexico to Texas
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" if I see a cop I just put the phone down. "

Right, because they will never notice you first.

I do notice that people doing the more stupid things ( excessive speeding, cutting people off when turning, driving so close that they almost touch my bumper, darting in and out of traffic ) are generally young and have a phone pressed to their ear ( or are texting or putting on makeup ) and I think that the cell phone ban is aimed at those more inexperienced drivers who are most likely to be distracted when driving and trying to do something else.

Frankly, it's the lack of car seats being used that I would rather see them go after en masse.


right, Im more likely to notice the cop, cops have so many things and violations to watch out for, I only have the cop to watch out for.

and that law sucks, I will do as I please and I always do, cell phone or not most of the people on the road cant drive anyways.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Santa Fe
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right, Im more likely to notice the cop, cops have so many things and violations to watch out for, I only have the cop to watch out for.

and that law sucks, I will do as I please and I always do, cell phone or not most of the people on the road cant drive anyways.
Drivers like you make me glad I live in Santa Fe. Whenever I think the drivers in SF suck, I just go to Albuquerque and am reminded how lucky I am. I have a friend in ABQ who texts and reads mis blackberry while eating and driving with his knees! I always ask him in what part of town he's going to be when I go to ABQ so I can avoid it!
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:23 PM
 
Location: SILVER CITY
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I'm in favor of a national cell phone ban while driving. There are enough distractions without adding another.
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Old 09-19-2009, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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.... not a child's fault their parent is an idiot. ...
You're right.

==> Parent is an idiot who REPRODUCED.

Think about it. Do you really want that cycle to continue?
Now, if the child was sterilized and then put in the Child Seat ...

This is why I'm also for allowing people to let their kids ride in the
open bed of a pickup truck - especially in the back by the lift gate.

I'm also totally for repeal of seat belt and helmet laws.

Just yesterday, one of those non-helmet-wearers was taken out.
He was 65 according to the news, so unfortunately, he's likely
to have two generations of idiots surviving him.
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:52 PM
 
Location: New Mexico to Texas
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Drivers like you make me glad I live in Santa Fe. Whenever I think the drivers in SF suck, I just go to Albuquerque and am reminded how lucky I am. I have a friend in ABQ who texts and reads mis blackberry while eating and driving with his knees! I always ask him in what part of town he's going to be when I go to ABQ so I can avoid it!

Santa Fe residents like you make me glad you live in Santa Fe, I cant stand most Santa Feans, yall whine about everything.

and yall act like a talking on a cell phone is the end of the world, why dont you worry about something more important, or why dont you push to get eating,changing radio stations or looking in mirrors banned cause they can all be distracting.

I dont talk on the phone all the time while I drive but If I want to I will and I dont care what anyone has to say. Just cause Mayor Chavez dont want me to, dont mean Im gonna do as he pleases. Im my own person. I bet if he made a law that wanted everyone to wear purple hats on Tuesday you would do it and then cry when someone dosent. Man up.
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Newark, California
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I'm in favor of a national cell phone ban while driving. There are enough distractions without adding another.
They already have a cell phone ban in California, and I can tell you I haven't noticed a difference, I still see people texting and chatting on the phone on all roads at all speeds.
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Old 09-23-2009, 01:26 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Hand held cell phone and texting bans are already overdue. Nothing worse than seeing someone yacking away with one hand up to their ear not paying attention to traffic. It is in epidemic stages already. I would almost go another step farther and ban tv/screens in cars. I saw one dashboard recently with a monitor mounted to the dash and the driver was looking back and forth. NO it was not a navigation device.

My 20 year old nephew and sisters only child was killed in an accident 3 years ago...it was his fault...he was texting his girlfriend. No drugs or alcohol involved, just a lack of attention to his driving.

Too many innocent people are involved at the lack of concentration of drivers distracted by phones, etc.
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Old 09-25-2009, 02:57 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure if the cop sees you eating or putting make up on (if appropriate) would caution you or give you a ticket. It's dangerous driving.

The big thing about enforcing using your handheld phone while driving, is that giving big fines are not enough. There has to be social pressure saying "It's not cool". Just like as it is with drink-driving... In the UK (where I've been for the last while) you get 3 points on your license (12 disqualifies) and a £30 fine. Which wasn't a big enough deterrent, and now they are talking about £1000 fine, but people use they cell phones less because other drives look at you with scorn and in most cases flip you off. I know I do!

IMHO if you are important enough people can wait for you to call them back when you arrive... or pull the hell over while you have to talk. One life is already too many to lose because someone "had to" make that call.
Thank you Arrow:

I couldn't have said it better myself! Who is SO important that they can't pull the hell over and take the call???
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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Default $10,000 fine on cell phones

Thereís a sign on Paseo Del Norte (west bound across Browning I believe) showing $10,000 fine on cell phone talking while driving. Itís probably the highest fine Iíve ever seen. Does that only apply to Paseo Del Norte or city wide? Why there are still many drivers talk and drive? Iím seeing that pretty much every day. Do the police enforce such law?
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