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03-27-2008, 10:55 AM
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Army Mama for Obama
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Location: Beautiful Southern New Mexico
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Some Needed Perspective on Crime Stats
I posted this on the main New Mexico page, and someone suggested I post it here, so...
ABQjournal Opinion: Lies, Damned Lies and Crime Stats |
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03-27-2008, 01:07 PM
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Great thread tigerlily24. Than you very much for posting it, enjoy some rep points!
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03-27-2008, 01:20 PM
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AMEN! Thanks for the article.
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03-27-2008, 02:07 PM
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Great article, thanks for posting it.
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03-27-2008, 06:01 PM
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Golly gee wiz I wonder if Albuquerque would be quoting an op ed piece which is practically an ad, had Albuquerque come in safest in the offending report?
just wondering no need to flame away.
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03-27-2008, 08:24 PM
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of course
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Originally Posted by jghoo
Golly gee wiz I wonder if Albuquerque would be quoting an op ed piece which is practically an ad, had Albuquerque come in safest in the offending report?
just wondering no need to flame away.
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It is a good question and they probably wouldn't have. Nonetheless crime statistics are notoriously inaccurate because of inconsistent reporting both by individuals and jurisdictions. |
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03-27-2008, 10:43 PM
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a happy camper
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We're not saying ABQ and NM don't have crime - we're just asking that it be put into the proper perspective. Which the article did. Thanks for posing the link!
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03-28-2008, 01:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jghoo
Golly gee wiz I wonder if Albuquerque would be quoting
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Who is "Albuquerque"? Was the city itself quoting something? No. Was the "Albuquerque" city data forum quoting something? No. One poster posted a link to it. I think that is well within his/her right.
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Originally Posted by jghoo
an op ed piece which is practically an ad,
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It is an Op-Ed. Of course it is opinionated. That is why it is billed as an "op ed".
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Originally Posted by jghoo
Golly gee wiz I wonder if Albuquerque would be quoting an op ed piece which is practically an ad, had Albuquerque come in safest in the offending report?
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1. Yes, I would imagine that if there was a "Albuquerque is safest" type of study/ranking done, there would be someone (not "Albuquerque" mind you, as "Albuquerque" can't link/post/quote anything but some poster surely could) who would post/link to it. I would bet my bottom line. Just like I would bet my bottom dollar that if ABQ had fallen last in such a report or "most dangerous", there would be someone linking/posting to it to.
2. What is it that you disagree with in the op-ed? Sure the op-ed, being a freaking op-ed, is coming from a point of view / standpoint. That is why it is an op-ed. Yet, I don't think the article posted anything crazy or out-of-line either.
It just posted some additional info, more-to-the-story type of info; what is wrong with that? As the original poster indicated, just some MORE PERSPECTIVE needed...that is all, more perspective.
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just wondering no need to flame away.
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I always kind of laugh when posters post stuff like this. They KNOW they've posted a hostile kind of a post that will elicit an emotional type of response from some, but then act like they are "above the fray" by saying "no need to flame" or "no need to flame away" when, if fact, wasn't it them making the somewhat inflammatory comments?
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03-28-2008, 04:31 PM
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Aging Buick Driver
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I lived & worked in the DC burbs several years back when the snipers were on the loose - now that was scary [I guess they just had a mini-repeat down near Charlottesville]. Anyway, I worked at an airport at the time, and because they were doing construction around the parking area, we had to walk about 200 yds across an open tarmac to get to out cars. Everybody was literally weaving & bobbing all the way to their cars. It sounds ridiculous now, looking back, but you would not believe the level of fear that was generated by two wackos in a city of 8 million.
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03-28-2008, 09:10 PM
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My town currently has a murder rate higher than Albuquerque. In the last year statistics were available, there was a triple homicide, which in a town of 30,000 makes for a high rate. Doesn't mean my town is unsafe.
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Kent: Mr. Simpson, how do you respond to the charges that petty
vandalism such as graffiti is down eighty percent, while heavy
sack-beatings are up a shocking nine hundred percent?
Homer: Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent.
Forty percent of all people know that.
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