Development in Placitas (Rio Rancho, Chama, San Juan: home, live, zoning)

[Zoidberg]

Those greedy developers!

The raw nerve of them.. building things people want on land they own. It's criminal.

Seriously, folks, if you live in a house or an apartment, and you didn't build it yourself, you have a developer to thank.

If you go to buildings to buy your necessities, and it's not, say, strictly tents or pickup trucks you buy from, you have a developer to thank.

If you live in the best house you could afford, thank a developer for building affordable housing. (Stupid sprawl and instant slums!)

If you live in a house that most others can't afford, thank a developer for building upscale housing. (Stupid gentrification and yuppies ruining the neighborhood!)

Developers don't always do what I want them to do, and in many instances, it's worth fighting them. But in many cases, whether we realize it or not, most of us want them to do exactly what they're doing when it comes to voting with our wallets and pocketbooks.

[rybert]

Yes, Zoidberg, we need developers. They are the only ones with the capital to get projects going. However, we need to make sure we don't get taken for a ride (i.e. SunCal).

[trailtramp]

If Zoidberg is referring to my post, let me clarify...I did not say greedy developers. I said greedy landowners. Placitas already has 3 areas zoned for commercial development, La Puerta, Homesteads, and the small town of Placitas. These areas have plenty of raw available space to be built commercially. And it is already a done deal that the access road that parallels I-25 on the east side of the highway will be developed commercial. That is known and accepted.

The landowners mentioned in my comments have around 200 acres, zoned residential and able to be sold residential. But they want this land, which is very hilly, with minimal highway access, and very limited water, to be upzoned commercial so they can sell the land for more money than they can already get. So they propose to those of us that live here that we NEED more commercial development. Who are they to tell us what we need? These people do not live in Pacitas, have no interest in Placitas or care for the community, other than greedily hope get rezoning and trash out this beautiful place. They do not give a rats hoo hoo about what happens to this community.

We can already see what slipshod development has been allowed in some areas of Albuquerque over the years, and more recently we can see what the pathetic city leaders in RR have allowed to happen to an area that COULD have been developed to a much higher and best use than what it has gotten.

Smart development is great, lousy development is just that. Over the last 10 years many developers have played a huge role in the 'throw em up' and 'let them come mentality'. We residents in Placitas are just trying to maintain what is, yes, and thankfully I must say, a pretty damned great community to be part of. And we will fight to maintain this as a very special part of greater Albuquerque.

[lalahartma]

Amen!

[Poncho_NM]

Originally Posted by Zoidberg

Seriously, folks, if you live in a house or an apartment, and you didn't build it yourself, you have a developer to thank.

That's just not true. Perhaps the majorities, but there are a lot of exceptions. I have owned two homes in two different states that were built by individual land owners.

Besides, Zoidberg, I am not sure what your point is. However, from the many people I have met who tried to build it themselves. Using a developer can be the best route to go for some people. I owned a "Lowes" kit home once.



Rich

[jiminnm]

So far, trailtramp, Bernalillo has only annexed the small business area on the frontage road (paving co., granite co., etc). The newer developments along there, Anazazi and Petroglyphs, as well as the LaFarge operations are not in Bernalillo. I think there might wide spread revolt if they started annexing more residential area.

Tom Ashe and crew, developers of Trails, La Mesa, Sundance Mesa and the area south of 165, also own the parcel on the frontage road between the red walls and LaFarge. I have heard that they intend to ask Bernanillo to annex that area when developed in order to get city services. Right now, that's just rumor.

There was also a plan to build a Smiths and small commercial development on the southeast corner of I25 & 165, but that seems to have stalled because of the economy. I would expect Bernalillo to annex that sort of development, if it's not already in the limits (which extend to the recycling center on the north side of 165).

[trailtramp]

Nice to see comments on this thread again. Now that we have owned a home in Placitas for nearly a year, I still do not find the travel to the other side of I-25 to be burdensome. I also feel that some development along the frontage road at I-25 is probably going to happen someday, and that does not bother me.

But once you get up into Placitas, the area around Homesteads and within the town a few miles up is all that really should be developed. I am still absolutely against this parcel behind the firestation and in front of Overlook being developed with crackerbox style homes lined up along the mountain. There is just not enough water in that area to house any more development than the area is already zoned for.

The landowners of that area are greedy and who have somehow influenced some of the Sandoval county members that don't give a hoot about Placitas.

[Poncho_NM]

Originally Posted by trailtramp

There is just not enough water in that area to house any more development than the area is already zoned for.

I have been hearing that for over 40 years in over 10 states. It's the I'm here, no more development.

Originally Posted by trailtramp

The landowners of that area are greedy and who have somehow influenced some of the Sandoval county members that don't give a hoot about Placitas.

My personal opinion, I consider that a rude, uncalled for, possibly slanderous statement. That is just my personal opinion. You are making outlandish statements with not a hint of verifiable proof. Again that is just my personal opinion.

I have a long time personal friend who bought land in the area about 30 years ago.

Rich

[rybert]

No Poncho... Placitas has REAL water problems.

Do you think the San Juan Chama project was done just to be on the safe side? No, we need the water to ensure we can SURVIVE in the area in the future!

[Poncho_NM]

Originally Posted by rybert

No Poncho... Placitas has REAL water problems.

Do you think the San Juan Chama project was done just to be on the safe side? No, we need the water to ensure we can SURVIVE in the area in the future!

I do not doubt Placitas has water problems.

But I never mentioned water or the San Juan Chama project



Rich