Information about moving to Albuquerque (Las Cruces, Santa Fe: fit in, transfer, earthquakes)

[AlisonL]

Originally Posted by Cade

Hi Joanie,

I don't think it is specifically Californians, I think it is just that any place doesn't like outsiders, or, transplants if you will. Outsiders bring new and often, differing opinions and ideas. They also bring their culture with them, in the case here, the California love of consumerism. I'm sure it wouldn't go over well in Montana or Wyoming etc etc either. We all like a certain amount of sameness, and I am certainly no different, hence my eager anticipation of more shopping/dining, and the natives disdain of it.
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Hopefully I can say what I want and it will come out the right way. This is not directed to anyone in particular and its not my intention to offend anyone.
I will use my home state of Maine as an example. When outsiders move in, the first thing some of them want to do is change Maine into whatever place they left. This is often times met with resistance. Locals just cannot understand why someone left their city if they want to turn Maine into the same place they left.
Clear as mud?

[joanie55]

Originally Posted by AlisonL

Hopefully I can say what I want and it will come out the right way. This is not directed to anyone in particular and its not my intention to offend anyone.
I will use my home state of Maine as an example. When outsiders move in, the first thing some of them want to do is change Maine into whatever place they left. This is often times met with resistance. Locals just cannot understand why someone left their city if they want to turn Maine into the same place they left.
Clear as mud?

Alison, I understand. But, in this world people move from state to state and do bring their values, culture with them. America is a melting pot. Some of this deserves to be respected. The native culture of where we move also deserves to be respected. I don't think we disagree.

[joanie55]

Originally Posted by rybert

Please do.

Honey, does an open mind mean anything to u? Embrace it, you might like it.

[AlisonL]

Originally Posted by joanie55

The best idea you've had yet - why don't u quit posting. You are too narrow minded to have any added value to this forum.

That was cruel and totally uncalled. Towanda has posted many many valuable things on this forum.
And, she is a NM resident...which you no longer are.

[joanie55]

Originally Posted by AlisonL

That was cruel and totally uncalled. Towanda has posted many many valuable things on this forum.
And, she is a NM resident...which you no longer are.

It was not cruel. It was honest. I was a resident for 13 years. That counts for something. Not only that, I still have a couple of very good friends who I talk to all the time.

[joanie55]

Originally Posted by AlisonL

That was cruel and totally uncalled. Towanda has posted many many valuable things on this forum.
And, she is a NM resident...which you no longer are.

Like I said before, you are WAY too sensitive. Get over yourself.

[joanie55]

Originally Posted by AlisonL

That was cruel and totally uncalled. Towanda has posted many many valuable things on this forum.
And, she is a NM resident...which you no longer are.

Towanda is why people dont' want to move there. She needs to leap off her ivory tower.

[christylou]

You mean one person is keeping people from moving to a new state? Wow! That's one powerful person!
People like Towanda are one of the reasons I would like to move to New Mexico. Friendly and helpful is the impression I get from most who post on this forum and live in New Mexico. I hope to be living among them very soon. I have been to New Mexico twice recently and have always felt welcome.

[berncohomes]

Originally Posted by Towanda

Best birthday gift in the world -- Spend a night at La Fonda Hotel right on the Plaza, choose one of the upscale restaurants in the Plaza area for your dinner, and get that man of yours to let you go on a spending spree in the Plaza shops.

It would boost our economy!

We spent our anniversary at La Fonda a couple of years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it, we walked the plaza in the evening and it was snowing (very late November), ate at the place my brother in law calls the whorehouse and drank Margaritas in La Fonda's little bar area. Great times!!

[Cade]

Towanda,

You say that if that is what Californians are like, you understand why locals don't like them. Well, the flip side of the coin is, that the reasons transplants scorn natives in smaller places is b/c of the very attitude you demonstrated. You took everything that Joanie and I said, personally, and none of it was directed at you.

Of course you don't have trouble with food and clothing there: it's Santa Fe.

Now as for slums vs wealthy: I was only telling you what we saw, and what were were told by a realtor. We weren't looking in-depth for a place to live and picked up some of those free brochures from the market - the ones where all the homebuilders and realtors advertise. All the homes were lux. I found a one bedroom casita for $300k and that was the cheapest I was able to find! We were looking for a house around 200k and, as far as we saw, there was nothing there for that. They did have lots of homes for 400k and up, and that's beyond us.

Then we looked at apartments. We rent one here in RR, so, we thought about renting one up there. All I could find were a couple of nice looking senior complexes, but the regular apartments were terrible. There is a complex near/around St. Francis and Zia, by Walgreen's, that we had considered, until my husband was warned away from there, saying the place had some undesirable types there. We came from a place like that in Cali and have no intentions of a repeat performance.

As far as locals disparaging ABQ, I haven't found a college kid yet who wants to stay. I stated in an earlier post that the families and older people seem content, but the kids want to leave. ABQ/RR is a nice, quiet place to raise your kids...if you have kids, which we don't.

NO ONE made any personal attacks against you, Towanda, and I was shocked reading your vitriolic response! NO ONE called you a podunk, or a hick, and I do take offense that you took a post where I said that I have heard people call others here those names, into that I (and Joanie) said that. We did not.

Now, if you are so inclined, I would be very appreciative if you could point me to a general area in Santa Fe, where this middle class housing is, b/c I can't find it. Apartments are welcome too, and you can PM me so as to not distract the forum.

Thanx