1 million in Metro by 2020. (to move, worth, between)

[bradly]

Originally Posted by finmqa1

First - I didn't say KB was the largest, I said one of the largest. Secondly check out Mesa del Sol's website, find the FAQ's section and written in there by the developer is their statement that it will take 50 years to build out according to their plans and projections. There is another article which states, depending on ABQ's economy it could happen in 30 years, the absolute fastest (Developer Forest City Enterprises is creating community called Mesa del Sol that is spurring industrial growth and attracting thousands of new jobs). As for 150,000 homes in 20 years, I'll hold my breath. That would mean Suncal would have to build 7500 homes each year for 20 straight years. That coupled with all the other developments you speak of is unheard of in this city and state. If you're going to read any of this, pay special attention here..........it could happen, it did in Phoenix, Las Vegas, Austin, and a few others, but it is doubtful today, and if it does well then I'll admit I was wrong. This isn't a contest to see who is right, I'm merely presenting facts, based on historical information that would state otherwise. This doesn't mean it won't happen, just the odds are against it. I'm not a psychic, nor do I work in Albuquerque's beloved Planning Department, but that said, I doubt planning has been right 100% of the time through ABQ's history. If you have facts that say everything Planning has done is 100% right I would love to see those facts.

Yep your smart, i studied all this in college.. i think i know all this, i honestly dont mean that in a meanish way..

[trailtramp]

stingraynm made a great point. Cities with slower consistent growth usually fare much better than places like Phoenix or Vegas that have had huge increases in short periods of time. Huge and quick population increases in no time put tremendous burden on existing infrastructure. Then local politicians pass new sloppy zoning and building laws and cities end up with new growth that doesn't work. At that point its too late. Problem is, the public is so used to bad growth pushed by incompetent politicians that everyone just puts up with it.

[ABQConvict]

Originally Posted by bradly

Yep your smart, i studied all this in college..

Yep, you're smart. I studied all of this in college...



Yep is OK, it is dialectal. You need a comma or period after 'Yep' unless you intended to start a new sentence but since the next word was lowercase I'll assume you meant to use a comma.

You're is the contraction of 'You are'.

The pronoun I is always capitalized.

After smart you need a period or at the very least a semi-colon. I tried it with a period and it works well.

The use of 'all' gives a partitive sense to 'this' which demands the preposition of. This was, I believe a hard and fast rule but may be entering the realm of style.

Finally, the ellipsis (the sequence of periods to indicate a the omission of written words such as the continuation of a thought, unwritten) is always composed of three periods.

Considering the content of the sentence, I thought I would give this one the once over.

ABQConvict

[stingraynm]

Originally Posted by trailtramp

stingraynm made a great point. Cities with slower consistent growth usually fare much better than places like Phoenix or Vegas that have had huge increases in short periods of time. Huge and quick population increases in no time put tremendous burden on existing infrastructure. Then local politicians pass new sloppy zoning and building laws and cities end up with new growth that doesn't work. At that point its too late. Problem is, the public is so used to bad growth pushed by incompetent politicians that everyone just puts up with it.

Thanks for the second, and as I've gone through the messages that I just skimmed before I wrote my thoughts on the issue, I'm pleased to see that I was apparently seconding a lot of other folks' notions, including some of yours. I tried to rep accordingly, since I was sort of writing blind and not calling out seconds myself.

And before, thankfully nobody caught it yet, but I said "Inland Northwesterners" like sensible growth. Really, I'm sure people everywhere like sensible growth, and the Inland Northwest does happen to contain Spokane (), which pulled the same maneuver as Phoenix and Denver and allowed those fleeing SoCal to flee into what turned out to be more of the same. The crowd that flees the crowd is like the traffic that beats the traffic... or car camping. Ah... the masses who avoid the mass.

In light of your last sentence, I have to wonder if there are local interest groups to bring these very legitimate concerns about population spikes to the policy makers. Bradly may have a scary point due mainly in fact to the current trend to escape Phoenix and Denver (right now, I'm thanking Austin, Las Vegas, Tucson, and most of Colorado like my lucky [or not so] stars).

Citizens should speak up about finding ways to ensure nothing falls between the cracks if a spike does hit. After all, bribers/special interests always talk and have a persuasive "voice", so taxapayers/voters who neither talk nor show that they're serious will inevitably get shafted. There are a number of famous quotes from both Greek philosophy and the American Revolution that resonate the maintenance of a democratic republic as an active effort and not a passive spectacle. Without citizen action, we can all just sit back and enjoy the oligarchy, 'cause guess what's talking when mass indignation is silent.

Overall, we can't stop people from moving where they want in this country (libertas laudamus, baby!); however, we can ensure that new development is reviewed and compensated by infrastructure as a favor to both natives and transplants alike. I intend to research the possibility of interest groups that look to encourage sensible, prudent growth. If I find it, I'll post it like it's the next big thing. These issues of imprudent development impact all of our everday lives in many negative ways, although citizens everywhere have just started to take it with the tides (even if those tides bring a tsunami).

[stingraynm]

Originally Posted by ABQConvict

Considering the content of the sentence, I thought I would give this one the once over.

ABQConvict

*Chuckle* Yeah, the irony didn't escape me, either. I let it slide due to our brief history on this forum and the fact that I couldn't think of a fun, non-contentious way to point it out due to said history. Someone had to say something, though, and as someone with tech. writing in his job description, I was chomping at the bit to return smug (like return fire, only not as bloody).

So kudos. <--(sentence fragment... don't tell) CDF blocked my rep, though, so it'll have to wait.

[bradly]

Originally Posted by ABQConvict

Yep, you're smart. I studied all of this in college...



Yep is OK, it is dialectal. You need a comma or period after 'Yep' unless you intended to start a new sentence but since the next word was lowercase I'll assume you meant to use a comma.

You're is the contraction of 'You are'.

The pronoun I is always capitalized.

After smart you need a period or at the very least a semi-colon. I tried it with a period and it works well.

The use of 'all' gives a partitive sense to 'this' which demands the preposition of. This was, I believe a hard and fast rule but may be entering the realm of style.

Finally, the ellipsis (the sequence of periods to indicate a the omission of written words such as the continuation of a thought, unwritten) is always composed of three periods.

Considering the content of the sentence, I thought I would give this one the once over.

ABQConvict

Wow what are you a teacher, calm down dude its a forum not a exam or school dont act like a badass, no one cares

[stingraynm]

Originally Posted by bradly

Wow what are you a teacher, calm down dude its a forum not a exam or school dont act like a badass, no one cares

Y'know, bradly, in contrast to my initial critique of you and some of the others I'm pretty darn sure you get, he was just giving you a good-natured taunt in what most of us consider mutual humor. Since abrasive statements just seem to be in your nature even when you don't intend it, I'd recommend you either take someone's hint one of these days or get used to inciting critiques.

[bradly]

Originally Posted by stingraynm

Y'know, bradly, in contrast to my initial critique of you and some of the others I'm pretty darn sure you get, he was just giving you a good-natured taunt in what most of us consider mutual humor. Since abrasive statements just seem to be in your nature even when you don't intend it, I'd recommend you either take someone's hint one of these days or get used to inciting critiques.

Nahh.. Dont tell me how to live my life, you live yours..i live mine. Got it.

[stingraynm]

Originally Posted by bradly

Nahh.. Dont tell me how to live my life, you live yours..i live mine. Got it.

I got no problem with that... just tryin' to help in a less contentious (and better summarized) fashion than I tried before.

[bradly]

Originally Posted by stingraynm

I got no problem with that... just tryin' to help in a less contentious (and better summarized) fashion than I tried before.

Good For you,.. you deserve a trophy