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Old 11-09-2009, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Originally Posted by Mike Horrell
If it took 100 employees to do a certain volume
of work a year ago and now you're doing it with 80,
that's pure gain for the company and its stock holders. ...
Short term.
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:36 PM
 
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Short term.
If find ways to produce something cheaper, why is that only a "short term" gain?
Seems to me that is a permanent improvement...

'splain yourself, Wilbur....
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:26 AM
 
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Default Unemployment in NM

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Can't provide a link, it was in the newspaper today, Sorry! I named the worst and the best, and New Mexico was the lowest.
Not to question any source, but I've lived in 20 states and haven't seen unemployment as bad. Not that I'm arguing on the stats, but I think a lot of it has to do with what field you are in. I've been in IT for almost 20 years and can't find work here; but than again, both Intel and Sandia are laying off. Now if I was in defense with a clearance, medical field, or other specialized fied, I'd have a better chance. So it depends on a lot of factors. All I know is it's pretty pathetic then you go to Jiffy Lube and find out that you can't even get a job as a "greasemonkey". Anyway, I'm not aruguing with anyone, especially since I haven't lived here for long. It's just that sometimes I don't know where the media gets this info from
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Abu Al-Qurq
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Sandia's laying off who, exactly? Have yet to find any news reports about this in 2009.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:13 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Sandia's laying off who, exactly? Have yet to find any news reports about this in 2009.
From my memory, just recently in the last few months, Sandia Labs closed down most if not all of their machine shop at Kirtland AFB. Also some friends/acquaintances have been laid off due to reduced fabrication contracts from Sandia initiated by Raytheon. Yucca Mountain project has 300+ Sandia employees and it is shutting down.


Rich
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Originally Posted by Mike Horrell
'splain yourself, Wilbur....
Taking this to DM - off topic.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Abu Al-Qurq
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From my memory, just recently in the last few months, Sandia Labs closed down most if not all of their machine shop at Kirtland AFB. Also some friends/acquaintances have been laid off due to reduced fabrication contracts from Sandia initiated by Raytheon. Yucca Mountain project has 300+ Sandia employees and it is shutting down.


Rich
Shutting down the machine shop doesn't equal layoffs, according to the associated press' account from Joe Harris, the senior manager of said machine shop.

Contractors get jobs, they get riffed.. but these aren't Sandia employees.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Burque!
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That's the catch with Sandia... they're moving more and more employees into contractor positions.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:25 PM
 
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Not to question any source, but I've lived in 20 states and haven't seen unemployment as bad. Not that I'm arguing on the stats, but I think a lot of it has to do with what field you are in. I've been in IT for almost 20 years and can't find work here; but than again, both Intel and Sandia are laying off. Now if I was in defense with a clearance, medical field, or other specialized fied, I'd have a better chance. So it depends on a lot of factors. All I know is it's pretty pathetic then you go to Jiffy Lube and find out that you can't even get a job as a "greasemonkey". Anyway, I'm not aruguing with anyone, especially since I haven't lived here for long. It's just that sometimes I don't know where the media gets this info from
The original source for unemployment data is the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) of the federal government. They use several sources with some sampling involved. The US figure is published first, then states, then metropolitan areas. As far as I know the most recent metro data is the preliminary numbers for September.
Table 1. Civilian labor force and unemployment by state and metropolitan area

This report shows ABQ at 7.8 percent which is higher than the New Mexico figure but lower than the national average. And of course you are right -- the job situation can vary radically by fields. Nationally anyway, health care jobs have continued to increase.

Also unemployment data for smaller states and metro areas are probably not that reliable and should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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'splain yourself, Wilbur....
I just noticed that Mike mixed I love Lucy with Mr. Ed.

That's almost against the TOS, but I'll hafta' check.
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