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Old 02-04-2010, 01:33 AM
 
Location: Lubbock, TX
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Interesting article in the Alibi (and I see this same writer has penned some stand-out articles, on very local themes, in previous issues):

Old Town: A cautionary tale

I was unfamiliar with most of this background.
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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Interesting article in the Alibi (and I see this same writer has penned some stand-out articles, on very local themes, in previous issues):

Old Town: A cautionary tale

I was unfamiliar with most of this background.
Thank you! That indeed was an interesting read. I can empathize with the residents of the South Valley since I've seen what they fear happen to the "valley" areas both up and downstream of El Paso. Once bucolic farm land now paved over with subdivisions. The same thing is happening both up and down the river from Las Cruces. Loss of this very limited and fertile irrigation plain along the river is a tragedy, IMO.

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Old 02-04-2010, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Abu Al-Qurq
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I think one point many miss is that regardless of whether old town made it as a separate municipality or not, many of the changes that have happened would have happened anyway. Viejitos would pass away and their kids would in many cases sell the ranch or casita to carpetbagging developers. What city was listed next to NM 87101 would not have much impact on this.

I think it's a bit as if Albuquerque tried to annex Rio Rancho; there'd be supporters, there'd be detractors, and most people would be indifferent. The look and feel of those Rio Rancho neighborhoods 50 years later would probably be very similar whether annexed or not.
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:52 PM
 
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Interesting article in the Alibi (and I see this same writer has penned some stand-out articles, on very local themes, in previous issues):

Old Town: A cautionary tale

I was unfamiliar with most of this background.
Thanks. I was unfamiliar with it also. I've emailed the link to a number of friends.
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Old 02-04-2010, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM - Summerlin, NV
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Ahhhh South valley. God I hope we NEVER get that place.

Our crime figures will break the damn charts.
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Old 02-05-2010, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Abu Al-Qurq
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Bradly, as usual, you have no data to support an outrageous (and insulting to many) claim.

Here's some data (for 2006):

City of Albuquerque's crime rates per 1,000:

Agg. Assault: 3065 ÷ 507789 = 6.0
Homicide: 42 ÷ 507789 = 0.08
Rape: 301 ÷ 507789 = 0.6

And Bernalillo County's 700 Beats, which comprise the approximate area the vote was over:

There's no convenient breakdown of the population, but let's go with the estimate of 50000.

Agg. Assault: 481 ÷ 50000 = 9.62
Homicide: 10 ÷ 50000 = .20
Rape: 24 ÷ 50000 = .48

Add these together, and the rates do the following:

Agg. Assault ticks up by 0.3 per 1000.
Homicide ticks up by 0.009 per 1000.
Rape ticks down by 0.02 per 1000.

The crime rates shift more than this within these places, year to year. Ain't no charts going to be broken.

And thank you for playing.

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