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Old 05-17-2010, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Marlborough, MA
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Bradly, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but you must realize that the objection here is not to immigration reform, but to local law enforcement overstepping their bounds and the potential for racial profiling/discrimination.

Imagine if the state DMV or a local police officer were to start auditing people on their Federal taxes.

And the "Wake up people" cry sounds like one word short of Daniel Carver.

 
Old 05-17-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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get rid of illegal residents and you'll get rid of new mexican food in albuquerque. maybe 10% of sadies's employees are legal.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Chihuahuan Desert
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I had to laugh today. The San Diego City Council voted to boycott AZ. So.....in the past week or so, AZ residents with vacation reservations in San Diego (and that's a lot) have been calling in and canceling their reservations, and telling hotels/resorts etc. why - because you're boycotting us, we're boycotting you. The mayor of San Diego issued a plea for visitors to not do this as it harms the little guy - the small business owner.

Maybe he should be telling the San Diego City Council that.

I just thought it was funny - San Diego didn't like it when AZ turned the tables on them.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 09:47 AM
 
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i don't think arizona will come out ahead in these boycotts. they claim they've already lost $10 million in cancelled meetings.

in my opinion, the law as written now is racist. forcing someone to prove their citizenship at random goes over the line. when we all know only people with brown skin will be asked to do so. it's insulting to the millions of legal latin residents and citizens.

that said, i have no problem with the law they passed here. if someone has committed a serious enough crime to be arrested, then it's reasonable to verify their status. and if they are illegal, deport them.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Emmaus, PA --> ABQ, NM
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Has anyone actually taken the time to read the bill?
 
Old 05-18-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Update:

Council voted 5-4 against the boycott and 5-4 against overturning Berry's Policy.

At least I got that much right.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 10:02 AM
 
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Has anyone actually taken the time to read the bill?
yes. what's your point?
 
Old 05-18-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Marlborough, MA
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Originally Posted by thelazyone View Post
Has anyone actually taken the time to read the bill?
Yes I have.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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His point is that the bill specifically prohibits law enforcement stopping someone just to check their immigration status.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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His point is that the bill specifically prohibits law enforcement stopping someone just to check their immigration status.
which in the world we actually live in means squat. african americans have been stopped for decades for phantom driving infractions. they can also question brown people for loitering if they happen to be on a sidewalk.

besides, that's only one problem with this law. once they have questioned someone, if they can't prove their status on the spot, they can be detained until they're able to do so. you could realistically have US citizens incarcerated for days while they try to track down a birth certificate. that's pretty un-american if you ask me.
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