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Old 03-01-2013, 12:54 PM
 
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I'm much more of a bourbon man, but for arguement's sake I'll consider it whiskey.

My favorites are Knob Creek, Elijah Craig, and Jim Beam Red Stag.
Bourbon is whiskey. It's just a type of whiskey. It just has to be made with at least 51% corn, I believe.

I'm looking at my bottle of Evan Williams single barrel right now and it says "Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey" right on the bottle. Real good bourbon too. I enjoy the Elijah Craig 12 year old a lot too. Both are great values for the high quality stuff.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:29 PM
 
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He might be referring to something like a George Dickel or Jack Daniels, both consider themselves Whiskies, but not Bourbons.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:58 PM
 
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He might be referring to something like a George Dickel or Jack Daniels, both consider themselves Whiskies, but not Bourbons.
Yah...Tennessee whiskey...la di da. I think they are basically bourbon that isn't labeled as such. Jack obviously tries to be a bit rebellious with there image. There whisky aint so hot though...maybe gentleman jack.
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:00 AM
 
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He might be referring to something like a George Dickel or Jack Daniels, both consider themselves Whiskies, but not Bourbons.
Bourbon is a whiskey which meets specific US federal legal requirements, including:

Made from an all grain mixture of at least 51% corn
Must be distilled at no more than 160 proof
Must be barreled at no more than 125 proof
Must be barreled in unused charred oak barrels for at least 3 months
Must be bottled at 80 proof or more

There are other regulations regarding labeling terminology, etc. but those are key.

Contrary to common misconceptions, bourbon can be made in any state in the country, although Bourbon County, Kentucky gave its name to the liquor... it was once the shipping port on the Ohio River where the whiskey went out from... and Kentucky is known for the finest bourbons.
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:16 PM
 
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Bourbon is a whiskey which meets specific US federal legal requirements, including:

Made from an all grain mixture of at least 51% corn
Must be distilled at no more than 160 proof
Must be barreled at no more than 125 proof
Must be barreled in unused charred oak barrels for at least 3 months
Must be bottled at 80 proof or more

There are other regulations regarding labeling terminology, etc. but those are key.

Contrary to common misconceptions, bourbon can be made in any state in the country, although Bourbon County, Kentucky gave its name to the liquor... it was once the shipping port on the Ohio River where the whiskey went out from... and Kentucky is known for the finest bourbons.
I know, but thanks anyway
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:20 PM
 
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Yah...Tennessee whiskey...la di da. I think they are basically bourbon that isn't labeled as such. Jack obviously tries to be a bit rebellious with there image. There whisky aint so hot though...maybe gentleman jack.
Meh, I haven't touched JD in years and have zero plans to, Dickel I enjoy, but it's not something I'd go out of my way for. Their rep is pretty knowledgable though, I was talking to her about their Rye at a Diageo function some months ago.
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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Bourbon is a whiskey which meets specific US federal legal requirements, including:

Made from an all grain mixture of at least 51% corn
Must be distilled at no more than 160 proof
Must be barreled at no more than 125 proof
Must be barreled in unused charred oak barrels for at least 3 months
Must be bottled at 80 proof or more

There are other regulations regarding labeling terminology, etc. but those are key.

Contrary to common misconceptions, bourbon can be made in any state in the country, although Bourbon County, Kentucky gave its name to the liquor... it was once the shipping port on the Ohio River where the whiskey went out from... and Kentucky is known for the finest bourbons.
You sure that it only needs to be aged for 3 months? Maybe it's 3 years? That seems awfully short. I can't imagine a bourbon at 3 months of age. Must be like moonshine still.

On a side note, I find it interesting that bourbon gets such an intense color so quickly compared to scotches. No scotch will have much color in a few years but bourbons do. Must have to do with the climate and the new charred barrels compared to scotch.
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:44 PM
 
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Well, since it's March and saint paddy's day is right around the corner (mmmm...green beer) I'll give a good Irish whiskey pick. Redbreast. It's an Irish pot still whiskey made at the same distillery as Jameson. Which means that it is distilled in a pot still and it uses a combination of malted and unmalted barley.

It has a great nose of toffee, spicy coconut, white pepper and bacon fat (I looked that up). A huge chewy, mouthcoating feel with brown sugar, marshmallow, some black licorice, coconut. A very nice long finish too. There's a cask strength version too if you can find it, really nice.

http://scotchnoob.com/2011/03/16/red...irish-whiskey/

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Old 03-02-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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You sure that it only needs to be aged for 3 months? Maybe it's 3 years? That seems awfully short. I can't imagine a bourbon at 3 months of age. Must be like moonshine still.

On a side note, I find it interesting that bourbon gets such an intense color so quickly compared to scotches. No scotch will have much color in a few years but bourbons do. Must have to do with the climate and the new charred barrels compared to scotch.
Aging-wise, it can be aged less than three years, heck, it could be three days. On the second note, there are very dark Scotches out there, the first that comes to mind is a Macallan Cask Strength. A bunch of that genre, Sherry aged or finished is gonna be a tad dark.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:29 PM
 
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You sure that it only needs to be aged for 3 months? Maybe it's 3 years? That seems awfully short. I can't imagine a bourbon at 3 months of age. Must be like moonshine still.
Actually, digging deeper, I discovered a strange fact... by law bourbon must be aged in new, charred oak barrels. But there is no regulation about what constitutes "aging." As it happens, 3 months is merely the shortest aged product on the market.

Then the labeling gets a little complicated...

Straight bourbon has been aged at least two years and has nothing added.
Straight bourbon under four years old must state its age on the label.
Blended bourbon can contain color and flavoring and neutral grain spirits, but must contain at least 51% straight bourbon.

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On a side note, I find it interesting that bourbon gets such an intense color so quickly compared to scotches. No scotch will have much color in a few years but bourbons do. Must have to do with the climate and the new charred barrels compared to scotch.
The color comes from the charred wood. Bourbon uses brand new barrels. Since they cannot be reused for bourbon, they are shipped to Scotland for their second life aging Scotch whisky. The majority of the color has already been removed. So the Scotch acquires color much more slowly.
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