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Old 03-17-2014, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Maryland not Murlin
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Really? Maybe you are talking about the old pilsner they have, I rarely see it anymore. I thought the Canoe Paddler (Kolsch with rye) that won at GABF was pretty good. The helles they make has an interesting twist too. For sure they make beers that are easy to drink, but they seem to be getting creative. I also liked the vanilla porter they had out in December.
Yup, it was the "basic" Linnies with a beige label if I recall. I used to get it in Minneapolis and sometimes 'Sconnie for $12 a case (returnable bottles). They always had a range of beers. I toured their brewery back in '98 or '99.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:16 AM
 
Location: mid wyoming
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That is how you show how Kool you are to your friends and other people at the bar. You know today it's all about how you look at all times......
I am very uncouth, I still drink Coors Light going on 35 years now. Why? Because it just tastes good.
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Old 03-19-2014, 02:56 PM
 
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Where did this idea come from that everyone should like what YOU (not you personally, OP) like? Everyone has different tastes. McDonald's sells a ton of hamburgers. Do they make the best? Not in my opinion, but to some people, maybe they do. Apple sells a lot of smart phones. Do they make the best? I don't think so, but some people do.

Everyone is different.
I really don't get this logic. Sure, everyone likes different things. But we can obviously grade those things without judging the consumers, right? If someone told you that they love McDonald's hamburgers, it is what they like to eat; and that it was the best ever; better than local burgers; to each there own; snobs die in hell - what would you think?

I think the broad message has been lost and sabotaged on this thread. No one is saying that people shouldn't drink PBR and Bud Lite. Just dont pretend that these beer(s) even come close to the quality of brews from top micro-breweries around the country (and world).

You may love the Italian food (unlimited salad and bread) at Olive Garden. Just dont tell me that its food is equivalent to the food at Enoteca Pinchiorri, Florence. That's all.
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Old 03-19-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: IL
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I think the broad message has been lost and sabotaged on this thread. No one is saying that people shouldn't drink PBR and Bud Lite. Just dont pretend that these beer(s) even come close to the quality of brews from top micro-breweries around the country (and world).
I'm not sure what you really mean here by "quality". That they have: different tastes, stronger flavors, ease of drinking, more complex flavors, consistent flavor, good ingredients, clean brewing practices, brewed to style, consistent brewing...what? I would say it is a mixed bag.

Some of the best and worst beers come from micro brewers...just like macros.
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Old 03-19-2014, 03:34 PM
 
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I'm not sure what you really mean here by "quality". That they have: different tastes, stronger flavors, ease of drinking, more complex flavors, consistent flavor, good ingredients, clean brewing practices, brewed to style, consistent brewing...what? I would say it is a mixed bag.

Some of the best and worst beers come from micro brewers...just like macros.
You are creating a false equivalency.
If I told you that In-N-Out makes BETTER burgers than McDonald's ---- would you then ask me ... based on what?
Is it better based on the bread or ketchup or feel or texture or meat or grilling (micro-waving) style or onions?

Things you listed like tastes or stronger/weaker flavors are vague preferences. What best beer comes from macros?

And I am not saying that all beers from all micros are god-send. I am essentially saying that the best beer of any kind (say IPA) from a micro will never find a match from a macro. Ever!
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Old 03-21-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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Because a lot of people have very bad taste.
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Old 03-21-2014, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You are creating a false equivalency.
If I told you that In-N-Out makes BETTER burgers than McDonald's ---- would you then ask me ... based on what?
Is it better based on the bread or ketchup or feel or texture or meat or grilling (micro-waving) style or onions?

Things you listed like tastes or stronger/weaker flavors are vague preferences. What best beer comes from macros?

And I am not saying that all beers from all micros are god-send. I am essentially saying that the best beer of any kind (say IPA) from a micro will never find a match from a macro. Ever!
Based on what?
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Old 03-21-2014, 06:29 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I drink Old Style because I consider it the best chaser for a shot of VO. That's what I like beer for, a chaser.
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Maryland not Murlin
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That is how you show how Kool you are to your friends and other people at the bar. You know today it's all about how you look at all times......
I am very uncouth, I still drink Coors Light going on 35 years now. Why? Because it just tastes good.
For what it is worth, the cool kids drink macros because you know, it is ironic.

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I'm not sure what you really mean here by "quality". That they have: different tastes, stronger flavors, ease of drinking, more complex flavors, consistent flavor, good ingredients, clean brewing practices, brewed to style, consistent brewing...what? I would say it is a mixed bag.

Some of the best and worst beers come from micro brewers...just like macros.
I prefer micros (and nanos) because they are the one's who brew the styles that I like at a price I can afford. I mean, I can either spend upwards of $15 for a (sometimes small) bottle of real German helles, or I can pick up a six pack of helles from a local micro for at least the same price (but usually cheaper). So for me it is partially brewed to style, partially brewed in America, and partially price even though many micros offer $15 bottles of beer, too.

As for quality, I disagree but would like to consider what exactly do we mean be quality? When it comes to beer production, you will almost never brew the exact same beer twice without the use of some very expensive equipment that can watch over and pick through the entire process with a fine-tooth comb. The macros can afford that equipment while Joe's Podunk Beer cannot afford such control. The bigger micros can, too, but take something like Sierra Nevada's Harvest Ale. It is going to be different year-to-year even though it is the same recipe.

Macro brews also have had decades upon decades to craft their beer into a "perfect" product with the aid of master brewers who know beer/brewing science inside and out, and, despite what some will tell you, many of their recipes come from the old world (although adjusted for available grains, hops, yeast, and water profiles). The vast majority of micros simply have not been around long enough to truly craft their beers. A lot of micros are, despite having the knowledge, a couple of dudes sitting around experimenting with different ingredients until they find something that they like and decide to produce.
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:35 PM
 
Location: South Hills
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You spend a lot of years struggling to get by financially, and its all you can afford.
You develop a taste for it. Then after things have improved, it has a strange comfort
food nostalgia about it.
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