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Old 03-18-2017, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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We just got a new car yesterday.. and I was dreading opening the door as new cars always have that awful smell... and it makes me very ill.. why dont they do something before these cars on put out on sale.. surely they could be steamed or some kind of filtered cleaning .. Ive now had to wash all the plastics, roof and boot of the car with water , vinegar and bicabonate to try to kill off some of these chemicals.. and because of rainy weather Ive not been able to leave the windows open.. and this is what it needs.... Also why arent cars fitted with good quality HEPA filters instead of me having to fork out 140 for one with a connecter.. and all becasue the manufacturers think its ok to sell their product smelling of these dangerous fumes.. I have MCS and this isnt good at all.. I wont go into the car until I know its been aired for at least a few days , I have a bamboo charcoal pillow hanging in the car.. but cant see it helping at all especially with chemicals.. The HEPA one arrives on monday so Ill see how that goes.. but surely in this day and age cars shouldnt be toxic like that when we buy them ..
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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If you knew ahead of time, that you are sensitive to that "new car smell " why not buy a used car, that has a few years of use on it ?


Somebody else would have all ready "aired it out for you ".


You know that most people don't react to the new car smell the way that you do, right ?


Do you also react to new furniture, new carpets and new clothing ? Or is it just car interiors ?


I am curious.


Maple guy.
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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If you knew ahead of time, that you are sensitive to that "new car smell " why not buy a used car, that has a few years of use on it ?


Somebody else would have all ready "aired it out for you ".


You know that most people don't react to the new car smell the way that you do, right ?


Do you also react to new furniture, new carpets and new clothing ? Or is it just car interiors ?


I am curious.


Maple guy.
yes I understand exactly what your saying... only Im so sensitive to chemicals that if someone wore perfume or smoked in the car that would have the same results.. also when they valet a car they put some horrid stuff on the dashboard to make it shine, most old cars have that done, or they have it sprayed with some lethal air fresheners..... so its back to square one with smells...I could have laughed when with the car they gave us sachets of air freshener and says on it.. to keep that new car smell.... even in my distress I smiled......oh sorry to answer you question, I react to everything I have MCS.. its an intolerance to all chemicals so the list is endless from petrol to perfume, to DIY stores smell, to housepaint.. air fresheners being the worst and fabric conditioner... Not everyone is like me , I agree with you.. but that doesnt mean that these glues and solvents arent causing harm also to ones who dont mind the smells..... its even worse than tobacco smoke in a car and thats horrible.. some car manufacturers are now taking steps to cut down on these lethal toxins..

http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20160...or-your-health

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Old 03-19-2017, 12:11 AM
 
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HEPA filters in autos won't really solve the issue you are having. The filters trap particles moving through it but isn't the best option for vapors. The smell isn't from a removable substance, it is mostly out-gassing from within the material. Unless you dunk the whole car in soapy water, your not getting rid of the smell by wiping the surfaces down. Wiping tends to just replace the offending odor with another smell that a person can tolerate. It's actually more likely that your cleaning solution is making it worst. Vinegar is a mild corrosive which means if any is left on any surface, it will eat (more like etch) the surface exposing more and more of the offending material to out gassing.

The charcoal filter is your best solution to trap VOC's. So, the bamboo charcoal pillow will be doing more compared to the HEPA filter. To ensure the best results, the pillow need to have the interior air moving through it so it can absorb the vapors. Even if it's raining, you can just keep the vent fan running as you drive and that will keep airflow through the pillow. The best solution is cheap and free, exposure to air. The more clean air that moves through the vehicle, the more vapors that are expelled into the atmosphere and not trapped in the vehicle.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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HEPA filters in autos won't really solve the issue you are having. The filters trap particles moving through it but isn't the best option for vapors. The smell isn't from a removable substance, it is mostly out-gassing from within the material. Unless you dunk the whole car in soapy water, your not getting rid of the smell by wiping the surfaces down. Wiping tends to just replace the offending odor with another smell that a person can tolerate. It's actually more likely that your cleaning solution is making it worst. Vinegar is a mild corrosive which means if any is left on any surface, it will eat (more like etch) the surface exposing more and more of the offending material to out gassing.

The charcoal filter is your best solution to trap VOC's. So, the bamboo charcoal pillow will be doing more compared to the HEPA filter. To ensure the best results, the pillow need to have the interior air moving through it so it can absorb the vapors. Even if it's raining, you can just keep the vent fan running as you drive and that will keep airflow through the pillow. The best solution is cheap and free, exposure to air. The more clean air that moves through the vehicle, the more vapors that are expelled into the atmosphere and not trapped in the vehicle.
Thanks so much Rabritta.... and your right on so many things there.. , I will use bicarb though in the water and would shake it all over the seats but dont see hubby smiling at that one... so yes hes out there for a 15 min run with all the windows right down. thank you so much for the help..I did notice our jackets had the smell so it must be in the seating too..It was lovely of you to take the time to answer this in detail..
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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How about putting all the windows down in the garage and letting it sit for a few days? Spray with fabrize may help also.
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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How about putting all the windows down in the garage and letting it sit for a few days? Spray with fabrize may help also.
Thanks Tom.. fabreze or anything at all like that is out for me., but yes the open windows will have to be the way to go. might take a while though , but every day it might get better , thank you.. We dont have a garage which might have been excellent but the car is parked right in front of the house where we can watch it, with all windows open a little...
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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A lot of that smell is offgassing of mostly formaldehyde and it is toxic. It's from all the plastic and the upholstery/rugs. And you are right about the fix. Lots of fresh air!
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:35 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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A lot of that smell is offgassing of mostly formaldehyde and it is toxic. It's from all the plastic and the upholstery/rugs. And you are right about the fix. Lots of fresh air!
thank you yellow and everyone who answered..
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Bay Area California
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I know it won't do anything about the toxicity but for smells, coffee works well. Of course, you have to find the aroma of coffee appealing but I've found that a couple bowls of whole beans or unused grounds can help clear the air. It's often used as a "palate cleanser" for people who sample perfumes.

I hope you're able to get this bettered OP. That smell is hideous and usually leaves me with a headache. It's got to be frustrating to have a nice new car that you don't even want to ride in!
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