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Old 10-09-2017, 05:40 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Just thinking about this topic since there is a post on H&W and a friend just recently had G.B. removed due to surgery to remove tumor, she had part of stomach removed too. A major 9 hr surgery. Some are necessary surgeries.

Crohn's Disease and IBS - Why To Never Have Your Gall Bladder Removed

I have a post here on Bile Acids and I've been taking them for a couple months now and my bowel activity is so improved. I have my G.B.


https://truebalancewellness.com/unne...adder-surgery/
What a load of crap.

As many as 1/3rd of pts with Crohn's get gall stones, so stones don't cause Crohn's.

If your gall bladder in so necessary, why do so many pts do so well without it?

Getting gall stones has nothing to do with diet: it has to do with genetics and the factors that determine the solubility of your bile.
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Old 10-09-2017, 06:37 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I had over a year of gallbladder attacks due to stones and then got mine out - I haven't had any pain since. I'd rather slit my own throat than deal with the pain of those attacks.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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If it's "working good" why do you need to take bile acids?
To keep it working good and to keep me more regular. I've had a history of bowel issues and the bile acids are making a NICE difference. Read up on them, and a friend who had G.B. removed in a major surgery recently is taking a pharma bile acid drug, she told me the name but I forget it. She has major diarrehea since the G.B. loss and lost a lot of weight thru this all.

And remember me, I'm the one who got into Prevention Medicine in my 50's....and something tells me MOST here are in their 50-60's give or take. I talk about my age and not many others do and so what...

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Old 10-09-2017, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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That's not the point.

If you made one gallstone, you'll make more in the future. An obstructed bile duct causing rupture of the gallbladder has an extremely high mortality rate. Once you're in there (the danger in surgery is not the procedure, but the risk of anesthesia) take the whole thing out and minimize the risk of future problems. [Yes, you can get ductal stones after the gallbladder is gone, but it's rare.]

Yep!! I had a bile duct blockage about 10 years later.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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What a load of crap.

As many as 1/3rd of pts with Crohn's get gall stones, so stones don't cause Crohn's.

If your gall bladder in so necessary, why do so many pts do so well without it?

Getting gall stones has nothing to do with diet: it has to do with genetics and the factors that determine the solubility of your bile.
If it's genetics, then I'm OK, I guess. I don't recall any family members talking about G.B. and stones etc.

Now arthritis is another thing in my genetic line. Mom and her sisters lived with OA.
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Old 10-09-2017, 01:33 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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And I also find it interesting that they don't even ASK if you have had some kind of surgery which changes basic things about you, and may make stuff they give you useless.
I have never had an MD who didn't ask about prior surgery! Maybe you missed the question on their basic charting forms?
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Old 10-09-2017, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I have never had an MD who didn't ask about prior surgery! Maybe you missed the question on their basic charting forms?
It is on new patient EVERY medical form unless you are going to some quack.
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Old 10-14-2017, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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I have never had an MD who didn't ask about prior surgery! Maybe you missed the question on their basic charting forms?
They didn't ask much at all. That my prior surgery had not worked right, and the way it got 'fixed' just increased the problem is evidence to me that this jerk didn't care.

I understand that there is an assumption that without some kind of report, they might wonder. But all that had been over a decade before, in a different state, which I'm sure meant it wasn't important to them.

I was ask some quesitons, but none about the history of the effected 'parts' and how they had worked or not worked. When I went back after the surgery I showed him how all the skin was being pulled on so tight you could tell. That isn't supposed to happen. He just shurgged.

Should I ever need a surgeon here, he will NOT be the one. I really regretted not calling a lawyer and seeing about suing him.
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Old 10-14-2017, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Finally the house is done and we are in Port St. Lucie!
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In my case, a bad gallbladder is genetic. My mother had hers removed, I have had mine removed and my daughter has had hers removed.

I didn't fit the profile and neither did my daughter. I was in my 30's and skinny as a rail. My daughter was in her late 20's. My mother was in her 40's and weight was an issue with her.

My daughter and I both had the laparoscopic procedure. My mother had hers done before that was even on the horizon.

The pain that I went through was so freakin' intense through those attacks.

As far as bowel movements, soft stools but not diarrhea. No issues.
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Old 10-14-2017, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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I had mine removed at 27, while pregnant because it was so bad...I'm 70 now, I never have the pain anymore but I do take digestive tabs like betaine hydrochloride sometimes. Other people can have too much acid, not me.
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