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View Poll Results: Would you like to live in Brazil?
Yes 150 54.15%
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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Since in more than 90% of the cases of murder, the victim already knows the murderer, I don't see how per capita murder rate can be a useful tool to access how "dangerous" or "safe" a place is.

Crime rates in Brazil are certainly higher than in the USA, but Brazil is very, very far from being a "dangerous hell with crime everywhere". I was mugged only 2 times in the last 20 years. And that's because I was very imprudent. In none of the 2 occasions I was injured.
I remember watching on the news a few years ago, a group of thugs from the favelas in Rio went to the beach and started a violent assault and battery on the tourists. You would never see $hit like that in the beaches of Honolulu, Miami, Los Angeles, San Diego, Tampa, or any other American city that has a beach.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:18 PM
 
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I remember watching on the news a few years ago, a group of thugs from the favelas in Rio went to the beach and started a violent assault and battery on the tourists. You would never see $hit like that in the beaches of Honolulu, Miami, Los Angeles, San Diego, Tampa, or any other American city that has a beach.
It is not common in Brazil, either. And in the US you have your school shooting sprees, also killing people at random.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:25 PM
 
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It is not common in Brazil, either. And in the US you have your school shooting sprees, also killing people at random.

And in Brazil you have shootouts in the middle of the street between police and drugdealers that resemble the war in Afghanistan. You won't find $hit like that in the U.S.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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And in Brazil you have shootouts in the middle of the street between police and drugdealers that resemble the war in Afghanistan. You won't find $hit like that in the U.S.
In Brazil? In very few cities. You have no idea how big the country is and how normal and peaceful most of it is. Would you be happy if someone judged the US by, say, Detroit?
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
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And in Brazil you have shootouts in the middle of the street between police and drugdealers that resemble the war in Afghanistan. You won't find $hit like that in the U.S.
O.K. I agree.
We will not find $ hit like that in the U.S. If we look for we will find WORST $ HIT.
What do say about Gary,IN - Miami,FL - Detroi,MI.
I think that places are not "The Heaven's Gates".
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Brazil
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I remember watching on the news a few years ago, a group of thugs from the favelas in Rio went to the beach and started a violent assault and battery on the tourists. You would never see $hit like that in the beaches of Honolulu, Miami, Los Angeles, San Diego, Tampa, or any other American city that has a beach.
This is called "arrastão", and it wasn't "a few years ago". The era of "arrastão" was 20 years ago. There is no more "arrastão" in the beaches of Rio de Janeiro.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Brazil
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And in Brazil you have shootouts in the middle of the street between police and drugdealers that resemble the war in Afghanistan. You won't find $hit like that in the U.S.
Shootouts like this happens sometimes in Rio de Janeiro, and, more rarely, in Sao Paulo. In the other major cities, we only know about it on TV, never in real life.

And saying shootouts don't happen in the U.S. is ridiculous. Just look at this:

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Old 04-20-2011, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Yes, the Brazilian government tends to apply the same rules to foreigners as foreign countries apply to Brazilians traveling abroad. Especially US Americans have complained a lot about the treatment they get when in fact they are treated just the same as Brazilians are treated by US authorities. They are not used to taking their own medicine...
Yeah, I noticed that as well. Although, I think each country has seriously different issues.

The U.S. because of it's economic dominance is attracting everyone on the planet, combined with its horrible foreign policy issues that do actually make it a target.

Because of those two issues, it only makes sense that there are stricter rules with foreigners then you'd see in countries without those issues.

I love Brazil, but the 'reactionary Brazil' sometimes annoys me.
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Macao
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I remember watching on the news a few years ago, a group of thugs from the favelas in Rio went to the beach and started a violent assault and battery on the tourists. You would never see $hit like that in the beaches of Honolulu, Miami, Los Angeles, San Diego, Tampa, or any other American city that has a beach.
When I was in Rio de Jainero, I actually saw police buses going up and down Copocabana, grabbing any fravela-looking person, and putting them on the bus. Serious racial profiling.

In other words, some other questionable practices are coming into play, to protect the tourism industry. I also remember quite a few armed forces looking people who stand around most tourist areas with large weaponry. Thinking of Copacabana streets and Pelhourinho in Salvador in particular.

[NOTE to OTHERS: I'm not responding to myself - two different posters on Brazil topics - Tiger BLOOD and Tiger BEER]
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:57 PM
 
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O.K. I agree.
We will not find $ hit like that in the U.S. If we look for we will find WORST $ HIT.
What do say about Gary,IN - Miami,FL - Detroi,MI.
I think that places are not "The Heaven's Gates".
I have seen grenade launchers used in shootouts between the police and the drugdealers in Brazil. I have never seen drugdealers in the U.S fire grenade launchers at the police. Why do you think I compare these shootouts in Brazil with Afghanistan, it is because they literally do resemble a warzone or the final scene of Scarface where Tony Montana used a grenade launcher on the Bolivian drugdealers.
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