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View Poll Results: Would you like to live in Brazil?
Yes 150 54.15%
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Brazil
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The only thing I like about Brazil is the women and the food. But those 2 pros are not enough to make me want to spend the rest of my life down there because there is more to life than just women and food. You also need to make a decent living wage and Brazil is not a country that would provide that for me. I would never want to live in a Brazilian periferia which is Portuguese for ghetto.
"Periferia" is not a "ghetto". Periferia is just the name given in Brazil to a suburban neighborhood where most resident families are lower middle class or low income (poor) families. The word "periferia" comes from "peripheral", and is often interchangeable with "suburb", since the wealthy and the higher middle class don't live in suburbs in Brazil, unlike the USA.

I don't know what your profession is, so I can't say if you would get a "decent living wage" in Brazil (I also don't know what you consider to be a "decent living wage").

I will show bellow to you some examples of job vacancies in some Brazilian job-searching websites.


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Bank manager (Gerente bancário):

On this website: Gerente Bancrio - SAO BERNARDO DO CAMPO - SP - Empregos

Salary range: from R$ 6,000 to 7,000

6 thousand Reais x 13 months (because Brazilian labour law guarantees a 13th salary to everyone) = 78,000 Reais per year.

At the current exchange rate between the Real and the dollar, it means 50 thousand dollars per year.

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Senior Projects Manager (Gerente de Projetos Senior):

On this website: Gerente de Projetos Senior - Código: 151961 | CEVIU

Salary range: from R$ 8,000 to 9,000

8 thousand Reais x 13 months (because Brazilian labour law guarantees a 13th salary to everyone) = 104,000 Reais per year.

At the current exchange rate between the Real and the dollar, it means 67 thousand dollars per year.

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Engineering Manager (Gerente de Engenharia):

On this website: Vagas de Gerente de Engenharia no Rio Grande do Sul - infojobs.com.br

Salary range: from R$ 8,000 to 12,000

If you get 12 thousand Reais per month, x 13 months (because Brazilian labour law guarantees a 13th salary to everyone) = 156,000 Reais per year.

At the current exchange rate between the Real and the dollar, it means exactly 100 thousand dollars per year.

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Construction Manager (Gerente de Obras):

On this website: Vagas de GERENTE DE OBRAS em São Paulo - infojobs.com.br

Salary range: from R$ 12,000 to 18,000

If you get 18 thousand Reais per month, x 13 months (because Brazilian labour law guarantees a 13th salary to everyone) = 234,000 Reais per year.

At the current exchange rate between the Real and the dollar, it means exactly 150 thousand dollars per year.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Brazil
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By the way, remember that renting a house or an apartment in Brazil is cheaper than in the USA, and also food is cheaper, clothes are cheaper, personal hygiene products (like shampoo) are cheaper, and house cleaning products (like detergent) are cheaper.

So, the cost of living is lower in Brazil.
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Old 04-29-2011, 03:26 PM
 
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Those are all managerial jobs, i.e. not really what most people have (yes, I know, everybody wants to rule, but nobody wants to be ruled ). So, what does a secretary or a factory worker or a baker or a checkout girl or a truck driver earn these days?
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:45 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Those are all managerial jobs, i.e. not really what most people have (yes, I know, everybody wants to rule, but nobody wants to be ruled ). So, what does a secretary or a factory worker or a baker or a checkout girl or a truck driver earn these days?
These ones are quite good jobs, at least to me, 'cuz there are worse ones by here such as: Supermarket operator, call-center operator, maid, salesperson and so on. All those jobs didn't pay at all(about
R$750,00 or US$450,00). That's what I earn monthly(R$713,00 working on a dressing belt factory). The jobs you mentioned before they worth something like from US$500(secretary) to US$2000(truck driver working 24/7) a month. And living cost is quite expensive(taxes put on over food, services and products), one of highests in the world. A Brazilian works for 5 months only to pay its taxes.
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:55 AM
 
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These ones are quite good jobs, at least to me, 'cuz there are worse ones by here such as: Supermarket operator, call-center operator, maid, salesperson and so on. All those jobs didn't pay at all(about
R$750,00 or US$450,00). That's what I earn monthly(R$713,00 working on a dressing belt factory). The jobs you mentioned before they worth something like from US$500(secretary) to US$2000(truck driver working 24/7) a month. And living cost is quite expensive(taxes put on over food, services and products), one of highests in the world. A Brazilian works for 5 months only to pay its taxes.
It says under your name that you live in SP. Can you afford a normal life there based on your income?
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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It says under your name that you live in SP. Can you afford a normal life there based on your income?
No, I always have to measure every step I take with my money. First of all, I help my family out, because dad's income is always stuck under several loans he've taken for mantain us. I mean I pay some bill(eletricity, water or phone) and buy some food. Then I have to pay personal spendings(credit card, books, food), and last but not least, I pay for my bus ticket to get on university. All that leaves me nothing to spend on myself, that's why, most of times, I avoid getting out on weekend's nights or travelling with my friends, 'cause I have no money left. I don't remember well, but they've made a research based on every spending a brazilian has to take to get a decent life and discovered that we should earn at least R$1500 or US$937 monthly. That's twice as much as I earn. So you can imagine how low is my standard of living.
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Brazil
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Hmmm... It seems that ricardobrazil is a 20-year old college student who works 4 to 6 hours a day as a junior trainee...
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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And living cost is quite expensive(taxes put on over food, services and products), one of highests in the world. A Brazilian works for 5 months only to pay its taxes.


They had socialist governments for 10 years, The former trotskyite Lula and now miss Rousseff, former terrorist and bank robber who "converted " magically to leftwing social-democracy once she had the prospect to be in power...that's an explanation! wonder how these Brazilian socialists are not
even able to establish social security for the poor Brazilian masses...



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Old 04-30-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Brazil
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Those are all managerial jobs, i.e. not really what most people have (yes, I know, everybody wants to rule, but nobody wants to be ruled ). So, what does a secretary or a factory worker or a baker or a checkout girl or a truck driver earn these days?

Baker? Hmmm... Let's search some job vacancies for "padeiro" (baker):

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Baker (Padeiro)

On this website: Vaga de Padeiro - SAO PAULO - SP - Emprego Certo

Salary: R$ 1313 per month

At the current exchange rate between the Real and the dollar, 1313 Reais means 847 dollars a month. 847 x 13 = 11,000 dollars a year.


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Baker (Padeiro)

On this website: Vagas de Padeiro no Rio de Janeiro - infojobs.com.br

Salary range: from R$ 4,800 to R$ 8,400 per month

(Clarification: this is the offer of a position as a baker in a sophisticated restaurant in a noble area of Rio de Janeiro, and requires people specialized in "prime" breads and cakes.)

If the professional gets 5,000 thousand Reais per month, at the current exchange rate between the Real and the dollar, that means 3, 225 dollars a month. More than 41 thousand dollars a year.

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Factory worker? Let's search some industrial positions:


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Technician in electrical and mechanical maintenance in a Printing industry

On this website: Emprego de Técnico em Manutenção Mecânica / Elétrica em São Lourenco da Serra, SP | Catho

Salary range: from R$ 4,000 to 5,000 per month

If you get 4,000 Reais per month, that's equivalent to 2,580 dollars at the current exchange rate. About 33,500 dollars a year.

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Industrial electro-technician or technician in electro-mechanics

(With experience in hydraulics)

On this website: Vagas de TÉCNICO ELETROTÉCNICO ELETROMECÂNICO no Rio Grande do Sul - infojobs.com.br

Salary range: from R$ 3,000 to 4,000 per month

If you get 3,500 Reais per month, that's equivalent to 2,250 dollars at the current exchange rate. About 29,000 dollars a year.

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Secretary? Let's do a search:

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Executive Secretary (Secretária Executiva)

On this website: Vagas de Secretaria Executiva em São Paulo - infojobs.com.br

Salary range: from R$ 3,000 to 3,500 per month

If getting 3,000 Reais per month, that's equivalent to 1,935 dollars at the current exchange rate. About 25,000 dollars a year.


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Bilingual Executive Secretary (Secretária Executiva Bilíngue)

On this website: Secretria Executiva Bilngue - SAO PAULO - SP - Empregos

Salary range: from R$ 5,000 to 6,000 per month

If getting 6,000 Reais per month, that's equivalent to 3,870 dollars at the current exchange rate. About 50,000 dollars a year.

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Old 04-30-2011, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Brazil
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And living cost is quite expensive(taxes put on over food, services and products), one of highests in the world. A Brazilian works for 5 months only to pay its taxes.


They had socialist governments for 10 years, The former trotskyite Lula and now miss Rousseff, former terrorist and bank robber who "converted " magically to leftwing social-democracy once she had the prospect to be in power...that's an explanation! wonder how these Brazilian socialists are not
even able to establish social security for the poor Brazilian masses...
Call it "socialist" if you want and your redneck ideology requires this to make you feel comfortable.

If Miss Rousseff was a "terrorist", George Washington was considered a "terrorist" by the British king as well. Nelson Mandela was considered a "terrorist" by the apartheid regime. All freedom fighters are considered "terrorists" by dictatorships and opressive regimes.

Brazil is being internationally recognized as a model in the reduction of poverty and social inequality, receiving lots of awards from the United Nations and other international organisms. It has one of the most comprehensive social security networks in the world.
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