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Old 04-13-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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Wait, there isn't a train between Sao Paulo and Rio? Really?

No, there isn't any passenger train between Rio and Sao Paulo.

There was in the past.

But almost all the railroad infrastructure of Brazil was dismantled by Fernando Henrique Cardoso and his PSDB party when they were in power.
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Old 04-13-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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So I have two questions:

1) Will there be any issues with infrastructure during the games that would affect people coming in for the games? This doesn't mean that there has to be a catastrophic failure, but just if there seems to be any issues that would be problematic in any sense.

2) To what extent were the originally promised infrastructural improvements and changes in regards to the bid Brazil made will be done?


1 - No, there won't be any problems that will cause serious delays for people coming for the games. Maybe some localized problems that may cause some queues and longer than normal waits, but no serious delays will happen (unless there is some major unexpected weather problem, what is unlikely). So, expect no serious delays, weather permitting.


2 - Most of the infrastructural improvements planned for the World Cup are urban improvements inside the host cities. I expect 80% of them to be ready by June 2014, and the other 20% will be complete after the World Cup. Those 20% won't be ready on time for the Cup, but will be completed after it any way, and will be a legacy of the World Cup.


As an example, I can cite the improvements planned for Fortaleza, the city where I live. Here, what will be ready by June 2014 will be: the new passengers terminal for cruise ships in the port (there was no passengers terminal before), the new Alberto Craveiro avenue (much wider than the old Alberto Craveiro), the tunnel in the crossing of the Santos Dumont avenue and the Via Expressa avenue, among other things.

The expansion of the airport won't be ready on time, because the federal government (who is responsible for the airport) hired some construction companies for the job that are terribly incompetent. The contract with those companies will probably be terminated soon, and other companies will need to be hired, through a new bidding process. So, there is no way the airport expansion in Fortaleza will be ready on time for the Cup. But it will be done any way, even if it's only ready way after the Cup. For the event itself, the airport of Fortaleza will have a temporary tent-like structure, with air conditioning, to provide more space for the operations.
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Old 04-13-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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Man, the orchestrated campaign of lies and distortions against Brazil made by the international press is getting more ridiculous the more the World Cup approaches.

Now is the New York Times with an incredible amount of bullsh*t about incomplete federal works in Brazil. They can't even get their facts straight, and mix things up in a pathetic way.

They don't hide any more that they are trying to influence the results of Brazil's presidential elections later this year.

They want a president that is more "docile" to the USA and the UK.
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:42 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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No, there isn't any passenger train between Rio and Sao Paulo.

There was in the past.

But almost all the railroad infrastructure of Brazil was dismantled by Fernando Henrique Cardoso and his PSDB party when they were in power.
What was the rationale for dismantling that? It seems ridiculous to me that such mammoth and important cities in such close proximity to each other do not share a rail connection. Are or were there plans to put one in place?

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Man, the orchestrated campaign of lies and distortions against Brazil made by the international press is getting more ridiculous the more the World Cup approaches.

Now is the New York Times with an incredible amount of bullsh*t about incomplete federal works in Brazil. They can't even get their facts straight, and mix things up in a pathetic way.

They don't hide any more that they are trying to influence the results of Brazil's presidential elections later this year.

They want a president that is more "docile" to the USA and the UK.
Well, what of it did you feel was incorrect? What percentage of originally projected projects were completed per the timeline set out for when Brazil had made a bid for the World Cup? I mean, did they actually fall short of what they said? I also don't think this is the first time before. I remember India was pilloried for falling well short of its goals for the World Cricket Cup and the criticism came from both outside and inside India. The same went recently, but on a smaller scale given that it's a smaller event, for Russia and its World Cup. Atlanta got some flack, too, for its '96 Olympics though much of that was because Atlanta wasn't actually all that ambitious rather than Atlanta not getting things done. On the other hand, I remember Sydney and Beijing all got fairly great coverage (except for some authoritarian government related stuff for Beijing) about the improvements they had made and how they had managed to meet deadlines and expectations.

Did Brazil actually meet projections they made in order to win the bid in the first place? As in, are there actually any major projects that aren't completed which were announced as part of the bid?
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